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Show SALT FLAT NEWS, JUNE, 1975 PageS were in this plural marriage arrangement, the leas she liked it She liked it more as an idea than she fid as an thing. It as her not a very, exposed being good wife. The more of that exposure there, was, the more she dislikedit. I married my first plural wife in March of 1970. Then in November of 1972, my first wife divorced me in a very bitter thing,, and she accused me in the divorce of being a polygamist SALT FLAT NEWS: And she had actually proposed to your other wives? . ' Yes.' And if there was a polygamist, in the family, then there were two of them. Or'more. But she proposed to Dale and she proposed to Margaret Margaret will tell you that And I never married a sixteen-year-olgirl untfl I married Paulette on television, aqd everybody saw that Its quite obvious I didnt run array from anybody to do that 1 did it on Channel 2. d - SALT FLAT NEWS: While on the subject, yourfatherin-laalso implies tide is an armed camp and that y ou are psychotic. , - Well, you. see, thatsanother thing. He likes to read the press. He says he was advised he was going Into an armed camp, but at the .time. I was living in Bloomington (Utah). I had a home over these in St George, and its not much of an armed camp, Bloomington isnt . It . should be, but it isnt' So, you see, he got yesterdays facts mixed up with todays press. See, we didnt have an 'armed camp at Bloomington; we lived right next to the sixth green them. And he likes to tell the story the way he wants it. And Pm sure that he was satisfied that he was correct that any psychiatrist would describe a man who believed in the Bible as psychotic. That didnt disturb me. w . At his Red Desert Inn, Alex Joseph embraces four of his fifteen or so wives. From left: Leslie, Paulette, Joni, and Carmen. I haven't bothered to add them up, says Utah's outspoken polygamist V wife because he cant take care of the one hes got SALT FLAT NEWS : What about women? Shouldn't they be free to take on extra husbands ? with a .41 Magnum to do it,' I can do it Now, Fve never hurt anybody in my life, and I spent five years as a police officer and five years in, the United States Marine Corps. So Pm hoping it My position is, I dont believe in polyandry. Because I take the position that every human being should have aright-tojnar- ry whomever they please, insofar as' doesnt become necessary, but nobody should get it in their head that Pm not gonna do it If they come if they .want to hurt my wife why, theyll do it at the risk of their lives. I hope you're that way. V. . SALT FLAT NEWS: Do you get SALT FLAT NEWS: The image is somewhat of a Charles Manson of southern Utah. much popular support for your views?. ' V it they , dont infringe upon the rights of another. Now,' if a woman can go out and get herself 25,000 husbands, and she can doit, and she can do it without interfering with my rights; and if somebody starts ghlng her a bad time, shell, find champion with me in putting down the mob that's pinna give her a bad time about it. V But I dont believe in it, and tell you why I don't Ijgjieve it very briefly. And that is, I believe every child needs to know who his mother and father Is. And every child in my family knows who its mother is and who its father is. Thats what gives 'em a secure position, to know who they are. A woman who has ten or fifteen husbands, has one child every once in a while, the child has no idea in the world who his father is. You see? And it's destructive to the patriarchal structure that I believe in. But there are societies that live like that, and thats their business. A lot of V Well, Fm not Charles Manson. 1 dont know anything about SALT FLAT NEWS: From Charles Manson, except that the The average ' American whom? press said that he's not a very male?. r- nice person. Which doesnt mean too much. Pm a militant but I I dont know about the avermore can prove that Tm not any age American male, but Pll teU militant than you are. you whos responding td this: l. young people who ; aren't marSALT FLAT NEWS: Could you ried, who haven't got any reason define yourself politically? I see to statistically believe that they that you have ah autographed can get married and stay marpicture of George. Wallace on the ried, and old people who have . . wall. been married and know that it a Wallace is :. Welt Geqige little don't work. ' Okay? They can rant and rave loose for me; but hes at the top of my list amongst, the choices I about polygamy all they want, might get ,My. politics would but m tell you this, that they make George Wallace look like a had a monogamist system and it doesn't work. Theyve got a communist .because Im a Fm using the term as system tint they know doesn't percent I believe in the work its seventy-fiv- e a old and the failure statistical Constitution, I believe hi it in lived know it people whove strictly. And I believe in individSALT FLAT NEWS: What hapwith whats wrong" believe in it I Theyve pens if one of your wives wants ual responsibilities; individual rights. I believe weve got their minds settled down and to take another lover? ' been extended those individual they know that, polygamy corHow do I know? Lets wait til rights, 'which' is individual re--, rect I get mail from older people, the problem comes upi , sponsibility, by the ConstituPd war say from 55 to 70. Lots of it SALT FLAT NEWS: It hasn't tion. And Tm ready to go to Schoolteachers, lots of schoolabout it come up? And thats why I say Pm teachers want to know. And Unh unh. And Its not likely more a militant than you are. then I get the personal contact You run a newspaper, and if from college students, about to come up. My wives .have one hard common denominator, they .can they come to dose it down, that age, 22 to 23. The no working, truckdriving, equip- hardly stand men. The reason youd go to war. about it Pm bement operating, guy for that is because they Bve with mote militant than you are, cause if somebody came in and thats working for wages, he me. And I live with them, you was going, to injure your wife, hasnt got time to mess with me. sec? And so my behavior is not worth, at all like other men. Not at all. youd stop them. And if some-bod- Hes straying for all hes comes and wants to injure tryin tostayalive. That's all In the first place. Ive got someon my mind besides sex. my wife or my children Pm hes worried about, and he just thing fell of suppressed, sex. not make Pm to going to stop them, and if Ive wonders how hes going And does not enjoy woman a gotta punch a hole in their head it. He cant take careofanother . j m , . . -- super-chauvinis- t. super-patri- ot - 40-year-o- ld y until one day I came home standing around and having a man leer at her and talk to her intellectually, knowing full well that all he wants in the world is ' some animal behavior, you know? They dont enjoy that Women arent like men. My girls arent, anyway.' We have beautiful relationships. We have something better to talk about, and . sober. So, I thought I was happily married. I had three kids. I had a wife and three kids, and I had everything everyone rise had. I had a home to live in, a car to drive. I had' a good job. I had a little prestige in the community. I used to be a seminary teacher Im not trying to continually: at the church and people satisfy my . masculine nature on some girl thats frying to do something else. You know, who wants to enjoy a movie, or wants to enjoy a book,' or has a child thought I was all right. . SALT FLAT NEWS: And then there was a great awakening? I dont tMnk so. From my perspective, the whole thing was just as natural as getting up and going to work. You know, it just came oh. it was time for it. I dont think a young man can . handle a plural family. I want children. We have a nice think and Tm not going to use sexual relationship I have;' young in the sense of chronolwith each one of those giris. ogy Fm going to say it takes a Some people, dont believe that, certain amount of maturity. It but I do. Satisfactory, and a man. takes a certain noble thought. A comes in here, I dont know man should be motivated mine where hed start, to proselyte by his' children and his grandone of the giris. .Pm sure hed children and his come on and tell em how Ms and their welfare thah nose is straighter than mine, or he should be by what he's going maybe how his underarm deo-- . to get out of the marriage rela- - ' dorant works better, or . . tionship. If he's motivated nobly ' You've got to kind of get old that way, you know, by enough to realize that Maureen thoughts for posterity and toOHara and John Wayne arent morrow and the future, then he will succeed. If hes trying to really in love. They were preso And see? the average win the favor qf his neighbor, or tending, tell you what love get some prestige or overcome guy couldnt ' his insecurities, or to establish his masculinity, you know, hes, SALT. FLAT NEWS: But maybe going to have some trouble. for the average guy monogamy js SALT FLAT NEWS: You may better. '..' . be motivated nobly, but I can't I think its cruel I think its a help noticing your wives ere a cruel thing to arouse in a man or good dud bettor looking than to, wake up in a man an appetite Brigham Young's. for something he hasn't got the I dont think so. My wives abilty to satisfy. Everybody have a I dont know. In the gauges life from their own per married girls are spective, you know? I believe a first place, my all Afferent, and I can't tell you guy who nas a decent, compatand .why they happen to be pretty ible,; monogamist marriage thinks hes happy, is not. Okay? and . they happen to be intelBut; if hes satisfied .and be ligent. And that's nice, and I like wants to stay there, and he can that But, iih, 1 think that if you continue to believe that, then had been in Brigham Youngs thats just exactly what he home, I tMnk you would have should do. But IPs kind of like, found that he vrak married to the you know, (I never' knew I drank V ' (Continued on page 11) to take care of, or who has a picture "she wants to paint, or an article she wants to write, or an entry she needs to make in a journal, you see? And these giris of mine, they . . great-grandchildr- en , 'W . . |