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Show Editorials Review GETTING u REVIEW. September THERE 23. 1965 (Continued from Page But $4.00 Is A Pile Of Dough , i University of Utah President James C. Fletcher, this million dollars per year week, said that three and one-ha- lf or about $4 per person could mean the difference between a good University and a great one. Fortunately Dr. Fletcher qualified his statement by reca ognizing that more than dollars are involved in such staggering effort. ch administrative ability Dr. Fletcher has shown during his first year at the U. If his statement appears oversimplified, this is understandable in light of that institutions great needs. It's not as simple as $4 per person, because there are several other public needs in Utah that need money just a few dollars per person per year . . .to accomplish great deeds. They include the fields of education. To say t hat competing fields are more or less important than the University of Utah would be fatuous. Only the people can make this kind of value comparison. It's not as simple as $4 per person, because half the tax load is borne by business, already hard pressed for atprofits. The delicate question of balance in taxes to tract or repel industry involves complexities far beyond the simple leyy of $4 per year. No university can be all things to all men. Even the gigantic California multiversity, with its tremendous support must have limitations. The prestige of the bachelor of arts degree is overrated, particularly in this state. The time has come to inject new thinking into the total post -- secondary education picture. For example, we believe that much hard thinking must be done about the place of vocational education in a highly technical age. A university can become great only by fulfilling certain limited functions extremely well. It cannot research everything, and still teach everything. Instead of a constant plea for tax dollars we would rather see a very cogent projection of the possibilities open for greatness within our present and immediately foreseeable limitations It's hard to believe that these possibilities dont exist. top-not- ... , I I : i i : i k'i M s 1) too much into the position of moving boards by pressure action. Board chairman, Keith Brown, added that there is a regular procedure for determining what is hazardous and it is the boards problem to decide which of the 26 elementary schools involved in the most haiardous. He said that the situation that finds Cyprus High students sharing the Kearns Junior High School on double sessions is a result of presl sure from t he people who wanted done at once instead of it in sections. At this point, the bigger stick was introduced as Jerry pinder, representing William Penn Elementary School. He told the board that the 39th South and Highland Drive intersection classified was the most dangerous and haiardous in the state of Utah in 1964, and is growing more so This was an official report which came from James Booth of the State Highway Department, Mr. Pinder said. said he didnt mind seeing the bus stop in front of his home each morning to pick up students even though his were not allowed to ride, but he was concerned about the safety of the children who had to walk along Highland Drive to school. He voiced the opinion of the 234 persons whos signatures he carried on a, petition when he requested that the school bus make a round trip each morning, taking the two loads of children instead of one. It would only take five minutes to return for these other children and would not require the use of a second he said. There are 200 children bus, living south and west of H ghland Drive, of which only 27 are UUajyy bus to the school, he said. There was also some question as to the method of measuring the miles which differed according to who used the tape measure. Mr Bruce Brockbank Road 5514 Indian Rock Dentist They them I'm against them. Kids might rebell if parents limit their dress when they start high school. CN THE HCT SEAT is Dr John Reed Call, Granites man in charge of pupil 75 He We Goofed Last week the Review ran two pic tures of a fire hydrant squirting water on an out of state car, denting the fender. It wasn't the fire departas weerron- ment's doing eously said, but the water Bids Let For Moss, Farnsworth Nine contractors bid prices ranging from $IT1 flUmon t TI30 fhution on two identical schools to the Granite School District Tuesday. A contract was awarded to Christiansen Bros, for the Philo T. Farnsworth Elementary School, 3751 South 4225 W est and the James E. Moss Elementary School 4399 South 400 East, for $1,170,000 for the general contract for both buildings. Christensen's bid included a time estimate of 450 days, which would put completion near the beginning of 1967. Total price on the two - schools, designed by M. E. Harris, will be $1,604,-57- 4, which includes a mechanical contract to Allied Plumbing and Heating for $154,980. department's. Our apologies to the firemen. beehive 1 help from the state building board is particularly appropriate for two reasons. 1. The breat bulk of professional people are honest, but they are human. The very possibility, even if not probability of padding makes evaluation by trained eyes important. 2. Honesty opinion disagrees, and when the layman is up against the opinion of the professional he is defenseless without solid experience to back up his opinion. 1 The Many Mood i h , ' Generally speaking, such reports, as we receive are invariably trite accounts of activities of the Federal Government in which a Congressman is taking credit Creer for The request by Commissioner John Preston i nn info phil Hansen at the f x.tball Ust week I saw him and shouted, Hillo Phil And he quickly placed his hand over his mouth and two ; A Ten ran up to me and fristed mr for any when they were ab recording device solutely sure I had do hidden m.ke s under coat phil said, 'Lucas, this is but I m fine ' ftrirkly off the record 1 d of So you see. the s.ienre is off, he "beginning to talk t o radio penf,je again i Mr congratulations to the peview for haring the courage to print Lrell Durham s column The L DC (I twell Durham oratory; featuring his critical evaluation erf the local R R R (pedundent Ram- 5tj 1 bling cFadio)sh"wedaloafI 1 1 (Insight. But Intelligence and Inronsstanry) judging from the reaction to his (summa-to- n of the scintillating Blinds) it could ily be taken as C 5 T (oh so true) The Durham t hlng of last week was well rea I observed M M M along radio row (Many o? the Mn In the Media) branding the I, D ( (Lowell Durham cratory) as L D f (Long Distance offal) But for roe, f welcome Mr D to the cb for 'those . for causing the events. King's report however, has a good deal more substance and recently one of his reports caught our eye as particularly informative. The Second District Congressman (in Report No. 16) suggested some thoughtful reforms which would serve to restore the legislative branch at our government to something resembling parity with the executive branch. There is no question that in 1965 the executive has achieved a dominant position in the rei tionship which exists between the two branches. The basic reason for this is that congress has refused to vote itself sufficient staff to exercise its function of overseeing the operations of the executive branch. "Congress ana the Federal courts emWith ploy together only 37,000 people. this tiny force, these two branches are expected to 'hold their own under our system of checks and oalanres, against an executive branch whose payroll now approaches some 2 5 million persons, not including members of the armed forces," was the way King put the pro- blem. The refusal of the Congress to provide the necessary staff help is a classic case in penny wise, pound foolish. There is no one person alive today who could have the expertise required of a modem Congressman who is increasingly becoming a generalist in a world of specialists. For the most part. Members of Congress are professional men who cannot be expected to have the scientific knowOf U ill Luca ledge required by today's world which places an increasing emphasis on scientific Honest Congressmen knowledge. like Dave King are well aware of their own limitations and are trying to do something about the problem, but they are bewho dare set at every turn by the "economy first" restored m fte t;ah demagogues who prate about saving hundMy fji'h has Sta'e liquc control cm irssion Just reds while m.llions are wasted. Only by following the lead of younger yes'erdav I sent my i t t e f ur vea over to the I rcal Jig r store Sheenter and more progressive minded members the s'ore pulld ter lit le red waguntiehind can the Congress bring its procedures her and she Ms a man help her f. 11 out up to date. If this modernisation is not one of the cards f her purchase Then achieved, the further decline of the legishe went over to have the lady behind the slative branch can be expected. MOSS WORKS ON WATER cage Ml her scrawled primitive ordpr and friends I m here to say The first step toward achieving the J1 DO they asked if she had any idpr,t;f,cafrn to prove billion North American Water and power she was twenty -- one'" My fai'h is reAlliance (NAWAPA) concept was taken She rame bark home stored rh her by Senator Frank E Moss, chairman of f there s one kid who is the Senate Public Works Subcommittee on empty wagon really on the warm j Then I sent my Western Water Development mi dd.e aged wife over to the same lie jo Moss introduced a resolution which store and hry asked her f r I D to prov? w ould request President Johnson to refer her are Friends m.vl velv wifewill ever the matter of the diversion of surplus see 35 again"" She came bark .' a water from the A retie to the International larre brown sark under her arm and o e Joint Commission of the broadest sm.les in the orjj "The diversion at surplusArctie water, she geined years of vibran yny'h in o as envisioned by the NAWAPA concept short visit t he liqrr odlve would be a major contribution to the tried to mrke my wife feel yoat Mr years solution of the water problems of the and fa ld but it s !I p.r Great Lakes as well as those of other areas of the United States and Canada," conspiracy Moss stated Lucas. .Man About Toicn (?) I of reading that comes across our desk is The plans and specifications are hightly technical -the government officials usually arent oriented that wray . . . it's the perfect opportunity for a snow job. Weve seen no indication that one has been tried. But the fact that the professional makes his income on a percentage of the sire of the job means that expert advice is mandatory. 1 bits the Weekly Report on Congress by Rep. David S. King. In its present expanding pnase salt Lake County has had more contact . . .and more problems with professional groups than at any time in its past history. When a governmental body hires an engineer or an architect, officials must accept the results on faith, al most until its too late. 1 1 1 t i s'-r- Question; What do you think of the latest girlie fashion - thigh high skirts'1 school One of the more interesting The Experts? OPINION PLEASE! personell services. He's now 'chairman of the new task force formed to look into the controversial transportation problem facing the district. Roof Goes On (Continued from Page 1) GERARD F. DEVLIN Who Checks . are so limited as to w ho can wear For most intense and purposes. Annette Rasmussen 2670 MPloney Avenue Skyline High School Senior I think they are in I don't like them bad taste - some people would probably like teenagers." wear them thiwich fusion disrupts classes, it is, as one teacher put It "better than the drip." Others Responsible? g, needless to &ay isn't happy about the prospect of being sued According to Mr. Rokich's letter to the cut a test section board "Cwens-Comin- g from the roof and discovered that a small piece of the metal decking had not been properly Installed and therefore are now contending that because of the improper installation of the decking the roof failed. The decking was carefully examined as the roof was removed and no other imperfections in the metal decking were found that could cause the roof to leak." Mr. Rokich went on to say "In order to resolve the district's claim, we recommend that a law suit be filed against all parties Involved to determine the respon-t sibility for the damages incurred by school district." Cwens-Comihas offered to share in the cost, but feels that the installation is partly at fault. Tbe board doesnt agree. The exact amount of the suit has not yet been determined, because it will include damages incurred during leakage, for cost of replacement, less perhaps some allowance for the four years of use the school obtained from the root Older Method The new roof going fin the school is a Mr. more conventional asphalt type. Seppi explained that there is nothing Cwens-Comin- ng instrinsically wrong with alberglassroof Several buildings use them successfully such as the new state office building at the capitol But the architect. Dean Gustafson, determined that for this the asphalt type would be better The bid for Replacing the 120,000 square feet of leaky roof was near $100,000. To accomplish the j'b Mr Seppi requires 35 men The first task is to np up the old roof and insulation, then to lay a new vapor barrier. This is followed by a double layer of insulation and five lavers of roofing, rolled out like a carpet With a gooey layer of hot asphalt between each one. Cver this are two layers of gravel, which keep the sun from hitting the roofing with resultant deterioration. Mr. Seppi said erf the new Skyline roof, "This is the heaviest specification weve It weighs about ten ever installed" pounds per square foot when all the layers are in place. Tbe rod of Skyline High School is dotted with transleucent bubbles, around earb of which must be placed special roofing, requiring careful handwork. The biggest problem for the roofer whentus been the unseasonal rain ever it looks Lke showers Utah Tile rr, iSt put a special seal over every pos-- s bit crack to prevent leakage overnight. This requires extra time and delays the Most roofs, accorlng to Mr Seppi are installed to last 20 years but "This ore should go for 30 During the Gran,te Board meeting Tuesday night Dr. England said that the needed a good day for installing 'he roorf. Summing up tbe frustration that study's, taxpayers, board members and adm nistrators have felt with this nagging Frrflem, board president Keith C Brown T guess a good commented roof,ng day IS one when It rams so you can tell where the leaks are con-'rat- or Mrs. Ellen Johnson 2780 East 318a south housewife "I don't like them very much, nor would I permit my children to wear them Mr Lee Dansie 3678 Soe'h Highland Drive sman ed stock like them with the long-leings - no, wouldn't mmd if my girl wore I might be more conservative them in 15 years though " parisS 'I g' .... Creer Requests Aid (Continued from Page 1) to its three architects, one riorurtment head particular profession they might have a supervisor of construction construccriticize. tion inspectors, a mechanical and an elecThe state of Utah has one of these trical inspectors as well as a specificadepartments, it's called the State Building run by Glenn R. Swenson, tions analyst Board, and-- is and headed by Elroy Nelson. Commissioner Creer outlined the root of the problem in his letter yesterday t Neither Salt Lake County nor Salt Lake the Governor: City can afford one. They do have an The city and county actually have engineer, Harold S. Carter, but it takes none on their staffs capable of interpreta number of combined talents to properly evaluate a complex like the Metropolitan ing the details of working drawings prior to the construction of a building. Hall of Justice. We cannot solicit private industry to This week Commissioner John Preston Creer looked to the state for help. In a help us .since they are in competition and hesitate to become involved when letter to Governor Calvin L. Rampton, Wednesday he asked if there were not we have our own contractor and architect. 'W e are uncertain if the change orders some way "wherein Salt Lake County or Salt Lake City or any other county or are valid and the pricing Is correct, or city could contract with the state building if the change orders are entirely necesboard to have them act as their agent sary We cannot aford to maintain as a city in reviewing plans and specifications and or a county or Jointly a building board in counsehngun change orders." that could competently evaluate the several As presently constituted the building board couldn't help anybody out this way. problems we encounter in the building of dollar structures." Its statutory purpose is to work for the multi-millistate. For that board to aid other governTbe commissioner summaritedby spelments within the state would take not ling out the advantages to the county; it only a larger staff but some changes in would allow us to assure the taxpayers that their dollars are being spent wisely. the law, or at least in administrative I am sure this would add to the burden policy. of the state building board, but, with the A Common Problem added revenue (paid by cities and counties) Almost everyone has experienced the they could employ any additional staffini problem at one time or another, usually nei essary " Ask one doctor about with a doctor. another, and you'll receive a most diplomatic, mumbled, answer. The system is Editor called professional ethics" and its basis is well summarised in a pamplet put out by the Nation Society erf Professional Dear Sir, Engineers The engineer will not compete Your recent activities concerning the unfairly with another engineer by attemppurchase erf liquor amused me no end, esting to obtain employment or advancement pecially when someone called public pulse or professional engagements by competitried to place the guilt on you since you tive bidding, by taking advantage of a caused a allegedly year old girl salaried position, by criticising other to break the law Allnineteen I can say is, more or other or quesby engineers, improper power to you tionable meth'ds " I would like to see you carry things This same society attempts to guidp farther such as taking a good look at some on of selection governments engineers of the activities in Park City Legally "The practice of engineering is a learnec there is a closing time for all "dives" sound of members its profession requiring but we all know that when these young technical training, broad experience, perpunks get locked out here In the city and sonal ability, honesty integrity. The they all Just to Park City f o selection of engineering services by an the rest of the migrate night. valuation of these qualities should be the There are some other things which basis bf comparison rather than competishould be aired One is why people do not A tive bids mention County owned acreage on the corThe end result is that no government ner erf 21 south and official can turn to another engineer when cannot sell but at the State which they same time are he has a problem with the engineer or spending millions of dollars on a location a on hired fee he's already architect, surrounded by dives for the new Civic basis Center. Certainly the comer of 21 South TO solve the problem the state building and State is closer to the center of board has three architects in its employ population and is practically surrounded by One is in charge erf planning of physical good restaurants and motels. The arerf ncilities analysis", another in charge gument by the Radio Station that It is "space utilisation analysis". This board farther from t he airport is ridiculous has three separate departments, programa few feet more or less would make no and planning; construction; accounts ming difference and controls I notice another headline which brings The state building board could probably something else to mind In yourBEF ( take the county's problem with the Metro9 the Br issue headline reads "10 politan Hall of Justice and with a very Million Now" I would Lke to see one newsshort study give a well based answer -paper in this country, or one reporter, but that isn't poss.ble as things are set or cxie politician, who could think about up. other than the amount of money Commissioner Creer's proposal isn't something sp'f't on any given project. If we car as simple as it might sound Mr Swena son says he believes it could be done If get be'ter Job for $10,000 than we car, for $50,000, why not publicise that fact the mechanics and the division of responrather than to keep harptag on the subject were out sibility carefully spelled that we have to spend more without any Mr Swenson doesn't want to see tbe mention of what we are getting for this department put in a potion where it increased spending The amount fepeni would advise a mumcipal.fy or county, open has no bearing on value received have the advice partly or not accepted what I am trying to sy is that the whol and then hav the building board get the 10 million referred to m the headline conic blame when things go wrung be spent without get'ing ary good wit of i 1 dct't think it would wnrk for the a nd some of the er.gi neeri r tha 1 ha ve txwi building board to adv.se then be held able to tbserve in this area over the pas responsible" he said, but added the warnfew years tends to indicate that what ws think I it would be ing wrong for the get nut erf it will be a loot ways from being state to take over the functions ofbuildmg worth 10 nr I I i on dollars for the counties and nt.es " , Yours Truly. 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