Show I 1 RELIGION VICE AND CRIME ithe AA liberal bizy government re some tremendous home thrusts K the hands of some of the clergymen vibo participated t ed in the thanksgiving ices yesterday union services ber vices were ald at the method methodist jet F church 11 am there we on the plat iten dr clift and bev W D mabry the methodist church rev bev H B D elinan n of the baptist church dr 0 and rev bev P F L arnold W presbyterian by church and rev bev J altu 11 and rev bev W 8 hawkes congregational chereb the revaj rev B J in the cobrae of his bis sermon is in credited by the liberal organ with speaking as follows 1 I have had my home here now for nearly fifteen years and feel myself a part of the city I 1 cannot help being in ter rested in everything pertaining to its welfare and be because cause I 1 love this city and its ita people I 1 want to see a city government hete here that will give our city a good name from the pacific to the atlantic that will furnish ample protection for us when we walk these streets at any i hour of the night that will furnish protection for our homes whether we are in them or absent from them and because some of us are the descendants of the pilgrims and of cromwell and his ironsides we do not intend to sit idly by and let our city drift to the dogs but let us be discriminating let us admit that some of those whom we elected two years ago have been faithful and tried to do their duty though in a minority undoubtedly if our city charter put pup in the hands of the mayor the power he ought to have we should have secured better government but certainly it is another cause for thanksgiving ing that the official term of some of those whom we ele elected acted two years ago has only sixty days more to run then we will lay them up on the shelf to dry and try to put americans in their places who will do their duty and enforce the laws the report then comments thus during the delivery of the pra preceding paragraph the great audience broke out in repeated applause and followed with laughter the speakers humorous sentences about the shortness of the official term of some of the city officers being cause for thanksgiving as a well as the approaching pro aching opportunity to lay them up on the shelf to dry along with other unseasoned lumber in the evening in the same building a very lively and interesting meeting was held the printed gramme pro called for an address by V B dolliver on jhb the ration nation and the liquor traffic but as that gentleman did not put in an appearance rev E R B F carr who was acting in the capacity of secretary of the meeting spoke with characteristic vigor upon the agthe church and the liquor traffic we quote from his discourse as reported in the paper already deferred nef erred to there is too much apathy on the part of Christians toward the subject of the suppression of saloons when we as christians fail to do our duty in endeavoring to down this monstrous evil by voice and by bv ballot we ally ourselves with the ruEh rum sellers the church Is in league with the liquor traffic when it falls to do its ita duty doty toward the extermination of the saloons when its members vote for abr whisky sellers and whisky d drinkers if we have it in our power to save drunkards and do not do it are we not responsible promises and talk amount to nothing unless backed by action you yon may talk until the hills grow dim with age but unless yov you act your talk is but bat wind and cheap wind at that oh that would keep men from bein being g put into office I 1 god forgive the man who would vote for a whisky seller in the name of decency in the name of morality in the name of reform yet sach a thing has been doneald done and done here in salt aake city we nave got to begin scratching tickets we can never get temperance and reform by praying to god and voting for liquor liquor men we have a very good object lesson leason in this city I 1 am prepared to say that until the present men in office io in this city change their ways olare succeeded by better men you will have no laws to restrict the selling of liquor or upholding the public morality the d duty ty of the church Is to preach the gospel of temperance and enforce prohibition as much as possible there are enough votes among the churches to turn the scale of political destiny either way it is our duty as ar christians to turn them in favor of prohibition the reverend gentleman is said to have spoken with greiff force and fluency and his bis allegation thattie that the church was in league with the liquor dealers created a strong een Bation tofi he was followed by dr iliff and the revs drevs Gil gillican litan and hunt who at that time took no issue with him or the position he assumed aro umed however dr mabry who stated that he had beo delayed owing to har harin having been engaged in marrying marry ing a mormon girl to a gentile boy and therefore had bad not reached the meeting until order was called took the floor he to is reported as having spoken in opposition to mr carrs charge to the following effect he wax wan surprised yes astounded that a minister of the gospel would say to the world that the church was in league with the liquor traffic he objected to such a statement going out from that body that the church had any such connection he entered a vigorous prof protect ert against the am bertion ser tion the church had bad all it could bould do now to fight the world the flesh and the devil without having to bear the burden of being allied with liquor dealers because a member odthe of the church went astray astra was no reason why the claim should d be made thu that th u the church was wrong after this burst of surprise and indignation dig nation there came a sort of me too commingling com mingling of ideas dr iliff followed the lead of dr mabry and a number of others also relieved themselves by expressing similar protestations directed toward the rev bev E E carr but the latter is a gentleman not easily dismayed and not readily put down he again ascended the platform and according to report launched forth as follows 1 I want to state that I 1 am backed in what I 1 asserted by bythe the statements of scores and hundreds of people who believe in placing the blame where it belongs when I 1 spoke as I 1 did I 1 remembered that I 1 was speaking to an audience of methodist episcopal ministers I 1 was just at as much ashamed as dr iliff or dr vu mabry labry could be to state that the church was in league with the liquor traffic all resolutions introduced without work are wind all wind the christian church by her ballots is in league with the liquor traffic applause three thred fourths of 01 the people of utah itah and the united states vote to sustain whisky men in office some one has said tonight that the whisky men have to fight their battles we have the votes they buy our votes tremendous applause it is just as respectable for a man to stand behind a bar and sell drinks to damn souls into eternal hell as it is for men to to vote to put them in power to sell whisky applause I 1 tell tel you the church is in league with the ai liquor or traffic votes count and I 1 dont sell sell mine some of you cheered and cheered heartily when mr mabry resented the charge that the church was in league with 1 th the saloon yet you all voted bisk for whisky ei sk y men at the last election the church is not in league with the liquor traffic oh not no sentiment is all right but it must be crystallized into action lord deliver uw us from evil 9 loud and prolonged applause ap mr carr is one of the clergymen who took a prominent part in the law aud and order meetings held in the methodist episcopal church a year ago it will be remembered that those gatherings in were held for the purpose of ur urging 9 the city government to enforce the laws against crime and vice in 13 this city which had grawn to alarming proportions during even the first biral two months of liberal rule he is a man of both mental and P physical h abi vigor and his evident honesty and earnestness carry his hearers with him while bespeaks he speaks in the main point of the controversy under consideration he had bad the truth on his bis side which can readily be proved and he was therefore invincible |