Show SALT SAMP nime LIME STAKE conference lla lia the quarterly conference on ference of the salt lake stake of zion convened in the tile assembly hall nali on saturday december 1884 at 11 a in presidency of the stake angus am M cannon and counsel lors joseph joseh E taylor and ccarles W penrose lenrose present and presiding present also on the stand president IV it for ford sord dWoodruff woodruff president john johny morgan forgan and others the assembly bein being g called to to order by president nannon cannon annon the choir san sang gang the hymn lymn commencing freatis Gre Gr catis atis the lord itis stis good to raise prayer by president joseph E taylor the hymn commencing irali joail to the he brightness ot of zions glad morning in was sung suns by the choir the roll call showed tile the following present two high counselors three I 1 patriarchs thirty three seventies all the quorums Qu of elders were vere verc represented except the ath ath loth 1 ath 1 ith loth and loth all the wards of the stake were represented by bv ane bishopric except the toe ward of tills city and the mill creek south cottonwood draper north jorian jordan and granger wards warda several quorums of tile the lesser priesthood of the city were represented the country wards were ailo aiko represented by members of the lesser priesthood superintendent joseph H felt reported the Y al M 1 I A the minutes of the last priesthood meeting held december uth ith 1684 1884 were read by the creak james jaines S stirling and with some soma slight amendments approved president A M cannon read ti the ae f following 01 lowing communication silt SALT liace LAKE CITY utah utai dec lith 18 isi 4 to the presidency of the salt lake stake of zion wion dear Br brethren ethien for the benefit of other bishops and myself I 1 desire to lay before you you vou a question involving the jurisdiction of common judges in israel an answer to which with any explanation you may give I 1 feel will be generally appreciated the question is this when a member of one ward moves into another taking no recommend with him and therefore is not received as a in member ember and he commits some offense which renders him liable to be tried for his fits fellowship which idich bishop Is entitled or obligated to sit upon his case the bishop of the ward from which he came without a recommend 1 or the one over the ward in which ti he e lives but has never been received as a member cases in point no noi nol 1 laman aman moved from the tha ward without a recommend and aud is not to today dav acknowledged as a member of tile the wara warn where he hives bives lives ilves A charge has been brought against him aud and a trial is pending bendin the ille bishop of odthe the ward in which he 11 lives ilves ea disclaims responsibility and I 1 insists fists th at the offender should be trie tried ill in th esth ward where his record Is and where the alle alie alleged ed off offense ense was committed case no 2 A man moved into the esth ward bringing no recommend and consequently was not hiot received in due form though calling himself a member of the ward and building and settling there A charge was brou brought ht against him he be was tried found feild guilty ped and his case handed up to the th ehigh enigh high council where the bishops decision was affirmed the offense in this casenas case was committed it might be said in both wards but the bishop of the ward where the man had bad no record was urged to take the matter up and an did so under the belief that he had J jurisdiction I 1 over the offender residing in his ward and that it was his duty according to a rule said to have been laid down dowl by president young I 1 in ll 11 ills lifetime life time to take action in the the premises what I 1 would like to know is this was the bishop of the ward right in case no 2 and if so is the bishop in case no 1 who declines to act in a similar matter right also what seems to me to be desirable is a rule that will work vork both ways and a proper and uniform understanding of it very respectfully f u 1 ay VB eit your u r brother 0 t h e r in the gospel oli orson SONN F bishop ward in reply to this president cannon said that where a persons record is if he has never taken a note of standing from that ward there he or sie she should be tried in case ot of transgression this had been the rule with some exceptions as in cases where the distance was too remote to remand them back to the ward in which they had a record in which event offenders had been tried in the ward where they happened to be residing said he if you find fuld individuals divi duals in your wards claiming to be latter day saints and they commit an offense investigate it communicate with the bishop of the wara ward they hall hail from report the matter and ask that he take hitup it up if I 1 were a bishop I 1 would not try a man without first endeavoring deavo ring to find out where his record lies where no record can be found a bishop mav take action and record it as that an offender was bated for such and such a cause or was madlof made of the case where the record Js i held and no note of standing has been taken there as a general rule is where action should be instituted where distance intervenes between amans place of record anahis and his his bis place of resi nest dence a bishop has a perfect right to take action in giddin the church of scandal if he chooses t u do so but it would be advisable firby communicate with the bishop or stake president of the locality from where when the offender has ill ili his record and to them afterwards any action thal that mav may be taken iu in the case no go bishop can disclaim responsibility in the case of a latter day Sain sainton one claiming a standing stand stan dinal dinar inc lne as such living lahi in his ward sward ile he should at least be interested te in that persons welfare elfare Iv and not shun or rh matter atter if lie he does not act himself ne nc should report case to the bishop whose duty it is to take it up the speaker gave dave good counsel to the bishops ur urging urlin lin them hern to visit their wards often and anto seek and feel after the saints and become thoroughly acquainted with them and their true condition acting as ac fathers and friends to the people bishop thomas taylor oi 0 the ward answered the statement put forth ili in case no 2 of bishop whit neya letter to the effect that the nender tender of referred to whit le never a received member of the ward was about to be tried there as a member of the church in transgression but before the tile evidence could be collected he moved into the ward lie he coincided with president cannons entirely president joseph E taylor apropo of the dancing season now at hand called attention to the rule heretofore adopted prohibiting and discouraging the getting up of parties for pecuniary purposes president C WP W penrose enrose on the sal sai subject b of round dancing said that while it was difficult for many young people to see why it should be disc discouraged outraged ou raged they would as they grew old oid older er kow know the why and wherefore and appreciate it iland and should now be reasoned with in all kindness on the subject the instructions now pre prevailing were that round dancing should be altogether discouraged and nd not permitted the getting up of public parties outside the supervision of pheward the ward authorities had also been discouraged aud and where private vate vale ucal fuai parties ties were arranged with the evident intention to evade the authorities and their counsel was purposely or unintentionally ignored and disie carded the persons who get them up should be labored with and alla shown the error of such a course lie ile read f from roin the doctrine and covenants in relation to the duties of teachers and priests and urged such officers to be alvage and active in the discharge of the same good acthen spiritually minded men should be chosen for ane purpose and while not 1 watching for iniquity for sake should see that it does not exist and report it to the bishop if it does exist they should urge all latter day ailts saints living in a ward and not members of it to get their notes of standing and ii if they have them and will not deliver them they should be reported as in transgression in that respect ile he earnestly exhorted all to be faithful for it was a time of great reat need in that direction for the p purer aurer we are arc the more power we have with god and the surer we will be of hiar his protection from the influences of evil arrayed a ainest us elder john irvine asked in relation to dancing parties if the prohibition prohibit aon lon as to pecuniary pe objects applied to parties the proceeds of which ivereth were to be devoted to the purchasing of libraries the assistance of missionaries etc or if it simply applied to dancing parties the sole object of which was recreation president cannon answered that the prohibition was applicable in all au cases A library could be purchased or a missionary helped without did not favor mixing the sublime with the ridiculous in any such manner he strongly deprecated evils reported as existing in the church and strenuously us 1 y exhorted that they be rooted out irrespective of any consideration but the purification of zion the choir sang saag I 1 ilow liow firm a foundation ye i e saints of the lord I 1 meeting adjourned till 2 p pm in benediction by elder edward TV davis saturday dec 1884 conference commenced at 2 P pm in the choir san gan sang I 1 arise 0 glorious zion prayer by elder edward the choir sang 0 god we raise to thee president elias ellas morris reported the high priests quorum to be in a good colt coli condition the cal report of the salt lake stake of zion for the quarter ending november 1884 were presented to tile the conference and approved president joseph E taylor thought that there ther was ewas some misunderstanding ini int in relation to our dancing parties other entertainments such as concerts lectures etc may be gotten up to assist s ast I 1 in i worthy objects for which w aich funds are required but the counsel is that under no circumstances shall dances be hadford raising revenue we trust that our people will see the necessity eity elty and advantage of carrying out this counsel we do not to discountenance any legitimate or innocent amusement I 1 on the other hand we can not sanction or tolerate the theman manner nerin in which many of our entertainments are conducted in the early cary eary days of this territory we were free from the vice and contaminating influences that have crept into our liast midst since the advent of modern modem civilization it is feces sary of the bishops and teachers to bea be alive lve ive and energetic and to see sec that safeguards and strong bulwarks bulwa are thrown around our innocent youth south twenty nive five years sears ago our females could travel unmolested from one oile end of this city to 0 the other at any hour of the llie tay day lay or night and that too without t any escort now it Is very different it will require requite all our energies to protect ourselves from the of evil that assail us on every hand bishops and teachers Tea cheis chels in magnify ag eniry gully your callings before the lord and teero throw v a mantle around our youths that we may preserve reserve them from the contaminating PI in that wo we are surround surrounded eI with president preside nt wilford woodruff read from diomand and com dented upon the section of the doctrine and cov covenants knauts cn ants auts portrayed the inevitable destruction that would fall upon the world if they did not turn from the error of their ways and seek to god for lils lifs prace grace denned dennec the duties of the teachers said that when the teachers came to our lit houses uses it was our dut duty to call our families together and to iten listen to what they have to say sav to us postles apostle 1 are arc subject to the teachers chers in their calling alling c as much as members all niem mem should he be honored ili in their priesthood A 41 teacher is a N iery ery important position in tile the church anu kingdom of our god it is tile the bishops prerogative to act in ili a ward waid capacity and see that the lesser priesthood perform all their duties the rhe presidents of stakes have exclusive jurisdiction in that capacity an j apostle would not interfere with that or any other caling of the holy priesthood where men are appointed to preside the first presidency and the quorum of the twelve e apostles would not infringe upon or ignore I 1 an any y olllie obilee in the chuick apo apostle tie tle franklin I 1 D richards and myself were appealed to in a certai certain n case this case iad lad come before the teachers and the teachers cited the offender to appear before the bishops court where tile the casenas case was investigated vesti gated the bishops court rendered a decision against the accused who appealed it to the HI high nigh h council and that body sustained the decision of the bishops court the accused camelous came tous to us all that we vv e could do was to act as tea Tda Teach teachers chers eis ers we listened to the evidence adduced and could not as teachers do anything but advise advie that the decision decision of the bishops court court be complied wit hand urge the offender to humble himself and obey lie he promised to do so president woodruff exhorted all to act in their callings and honor the authority of god president an anus angus us M cannon read a report of th the e sa salt sait it lake stake slake sunday seh sch schools which showed that there are forty sunday schools with over dill dili officers cers and pupils impila enrolled president edward W davis gave a verbal report of the first quorum of elders eiders bishops james watson of the ward and william L N allen alien of the gave cave verbal reports of their respective spec tive warns wards choir sang tile the anthem I 1 1 I will praise the elord eLoid th lord adjourned to p in benediction by elder william taylor 1 sunday december 1884 10 am the tile assembly being called to order iby b president joseph E taylor the thle thie choir choir choin sang 1 I the hymn commencing 1 I now let us rejoice in the day of salvation prayer by elder john nicholson the choir cho r sang ire vre we ive thank thee 0 god fora for tor a prophet bishop kobert robert T burton said that ills liis business was of a peculiar nature it was difficult for him to distinguish definitely the temporal affairs f rola roid the spiritual they were so closely allied together I 1 that it was impossible for the speaker to separate them the presiding bishopric were very frequently ap applied piled plied to by able bodied ii men len who as ask k for employment many of our brethren who collie f from rom row the tiie oid old countries think it very hard when they come here and find that they can call get gut no employment industries ought to be started and in addition to this men who have been here for years ought to be able to launch out for themselves in lii so some in 0 branch of labor it is all very well wel I 1 to talk about religion but when our brethren r come from irom the old countr country y ind iud end wander up and down our streets in search of employment and fall fail to find it they fail to see the beauties ot of religion an cin empty stomach and a lack of clothes soon bring g a man to realize the importance ot of temporal things we meet with these cases almost daily latter day saints should economize and be careful with tile the means in their hands there is too much carelessness among tile the people thousands th of dollars are expended annually for agricultural mach machinery inerT which in many instances is left out in the fields all winter to rust or decay then again 9 we expend some thousands of dollars for imported butter meat pork sugar cured ham |