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Show Page 4 Weber 0tate Casf a real vote this time Rumors and banners are flying, the rumors soaring somewhat higher than the banners; that can mean only one thing final elections. Today; students of Weber State College (a minority of the minority, no doubt) will fulfill their solemn duties as voters and will place "X's" next to tne names of those candidates they feel are most qualified to handle the affairs of the college for the next school year. Votes will be cast according to various criteria. Rumor has it, t h atliberalism-vs-conservativeism might be a basis for voting in this campaign However if the voter has not been following the actions of the candidates throughout the year, there is no way of telling which Oefcer Ptlt ?V MPdAtNTID FOR NATIONAL AOVRTlINOJ Y National Educational Advertising Service ft ttuwi oioarr mlu atavtcaa. inc. II 9Q LlnBton Ay., Nw Vorfc, N. Y. 1001J . Published weekly by the Associated Students of Weber State College during fall, spring and winter quarters. Entered as second class mail at tne Ogden, Utah, Post Office. Mailing address: Weber State College, 3750 Harrison Blvd., Ogden, Utah. The opinions expressed on the editorial pages of the Signpost do not necessarily represent those of the studentbody or the administration.' Letters to the editor must not exceed 250 words and must be signed to be considered for publication. Peggy Parker Editor-in-chief Miller answers Continued from page 1 Before the end of that week Mr. David S. Young and Mr. R. Bruce Bybee of the Attorney General's office visited the campus and continued their investigation into the next week. These men were given free access to all individuals whom they wished to interview. The following statements are their conclusions concerning the two basic questions listed above. "We had occasion to interview several witnesses to the incident all of whom indicated that identification was given to Mr. Robinson regarding the bail bondsmen's authority and request for Mr. Robinson to leave the Cafeteria peaceably was also tendered. We feel confident that had Mr. Robinson not acted to resist the authority of the bail bondsmen no incident would have arisen., "Examining the first issue regarding the bail bondsmen's powers, it is our opinion that the general common law bail bondsmen rights and duties apply and are best illustrated to the layman with an analogy to property rights. The bail, or person issuing the bond, is obligated to return the principal, or person or item for which the bond was issued, to the proper court or person at the appropriate time in order to complete the contract originally entered. The bail is obligated to return the res or principal in harmony with the contract. No issues of guilt or innocence are even raised in the agreement. We find nothing in the Utah Code or Utah Case Law which would indicate that the bail bondsmen did not have the power to apprehend Mr. Robinson as a result of Mr. Robinson's violation of his contract with them. Also California law specifically authorizes their conduct and Utah law does not disallow their action. The bondsmen acted with proper authority. "In regard to the second issue, we feel that it is the responsibility and duty of the security officers at Weber State College to maintain peace on the campus and to do all within their pwoer to avoid any suspected or actual breach of the peace. The officers are obligated to aid in the suppression of any campus difficulties which may occur. Therefore, we feel that there are no grounds upon which to censure the security officers at Weber State College in relation to this matter because it is our opinion, after examining the facts, that the security officers acted appropriately and in good faith under the circumstances." Until the investigation was completed, the dismissal or suspension of Mr. Carver was deferred upon advice from the Attorney General. With the receipt of the conclusions made by the Attorney General's office it would be inconsistent to terminate Mr. Carver. Mr. Carver will therefore be continued In his present position. 3. Demand to have the role of all administrators Involved investigated and candidate sways in what direction. (Funny how things like that don't come out during a campaign.) i Other voters will base their voting opinions on such things as devotion, sincerity, honesty, appearance, or how their best friend voted. The ideal situation would seem to be if the voter could take an objective and over-all look at all criteria, weigh their importance against what it will take to run this institution next year, and then on this basis, place a vote. It can be done this way, it has been done, and it will be done by a few, but not by enough of the voters to insure that the officers chosen are of officer quality. Some people seem to think that a half-assed vote is better than none I wonder! Signpost Lyle Karras Business Manager demands - conf . revealed. A conspiracy would be diametrically opposite to our purposes. At the time of Mr. Robinson's apprehension we were, with his cooperation and acceptance of responsibility to serve on the Ethnic Studies Committee, beginning to move toward the development of meaningful programs. His being apprehended has delayed our progress but has not deterred our dedication to work toward positive programs. Prior to his being apprehended Mr. Robinson had been granted all of the financial aid that could be given to him from the College including employment with the Respect Program. If he had not been taken into custody he would have been a member of the Ethnic Studies Committee. 4. Complete investigation of legality of incident with bondsmen, Weber State College police and Mr. Robinson. This item was answered in Number 1 above. 5. Before apprehension of any Black students by any police would like to have a Black-official (George Campbell) contacted personally. The official policy of the College, as certified to the Federal Government, is to provide equal opportunites for an education to students without regard for race, color, or national origin. Although the campus is not a sanctuary or refuge for persons who are in difficulty with the law it is hoped that these individuals will solicit the assistance that is available to them from faculty or staff members including the academic members of the Ethnic Studies Committee, to aid in the solution of their problems. Many students have been taken into custody on the College campus in the past few years by legally authorized officers. This is permitted by Utah law and it would be an illegal act for College officials to intervene.It is hoped that the above reply will not be misinterpreted by anyone. Since January 27 an Ethnic Studies Committee which had been planned for earlier, has been formed and several members of the Committee have visited institutions in California to study Black Studies programs. Also, a successful "Mood Ebony" week (Black Emphasis Week) has been conducted. Meetings have been held with Dr. Troy Gill who has recommended procedures for consideration that promise to improve goodwill and cooperation. The Ethnic Studies Committee Is working under the direction of Dr. Helmut Hofmann, Academic Vice President. Any questions or suggestions concerning this program should be directed to him. The Administration of the College is genuinely concerned about the welfare of Black students. It is hoped that in the days ahead a cooperative program can be developed that will result in mutual trust and cooperation and provide programs and activities that will insure successful programs for Black students. THE SIGNPOST Letters to the Election & change Dear Editor, Certain students are advocating a need for change in student government. The election Itself will constitue a change. QUESTION How much change do you want? It is a fact that the degree is not Independent of the college or university which grants it. Whether you, after graduation here, plan to enter the professional world or continue on to graduate school there may be many times when the source of your degree is as important as the degree itself. Regardless of the amount of your esteem for student government It is also a fact that an active, responsible student government does exert an influence, if not a controling influence on studentbodies. And the activities of the studentbody reflects on the individual student. If the past activities of the Presidential candidates are a Of Cabbages and King's How to vote anyway You should read carefully the statements made by the candidates, sift out the political gunk, find the issues they are supporting, and how strongly they are supporting it, and support the candidate who most closely aligns with your views of the best man for the job. This is where your college education comes in. You can't do it without a college education. The poll taker and the anti-poll taker are cleverly keeping their hands from being committed before the election. This is how it works. If a candidate doesn't want to take an unpopular position or make bold statements, he claims one of two positions. First, they will take the problems to the students and have them partially decide for him how he shall stand. Second, that the students elect him as their trustee-in-trust, who is not responsible to go to the students over every little thing. The first candidate, if carried to a logical extreme, is a quality computer, who needs only wires and tubes to be efficient. The second is a dictator. Now, I have personally known these candidates and know that neither is the case for either of them. They both are very strong minded individuals who have strong ideas about what should be done. Both would contact students, uither would go against the majority if they felt the majority was acting on emotionalistic principles. Now the question arises, who to vote for? Good Luck. All the candidates were in favor of more student representation on deicision making committees, but certainly to a different degree. Few had any program to promote such a step. There is a large .question floating around at election time. What do the voters actually fell about such things? Nobody will ever know, because unfortunate as it seems. The administration will view these Vote criteria for expectation of future activities we would expect: Moritorium Wickstrom : More moritoriums on campus. (Unless his participation in the one last fall was unsatisfactory to him.) Mr. Wickstrom proposed that Senate acknowledge the right of student discent. Hill: Acknowledged the right of student discent but' did not participate (observed). SDS Wickstrom: Voted for S.D.S. (In Senate) because their constitution met the requirements for acceptance at W.S.C. Not once polled I.F.C. as to how they wanted to be represented. Hill: Voted against S.D.S. in attempt to represent the students he had contacted personally and In classroom polling. This is not a parallel of the Gallop Poll but is a definite attempt to REPRESENT the attitudes of students in senate. Vote as you would choose a trusted and competent friend to stand in your place: You Are. Jim Jenkins election results and conclude that they may implement or not implement any new programs for more student involvement as they, see fit. The two other subjects on the ballots should bring out more voters. These results will be of more interest to state source and national source than the elections by far. If you won't take time to vote for your leaders, you should take time to vote for your future. VIETNAM: You will have five choices, keep the present forces in, de-escalate by 1971, unilateral withdrawal, build up to total victory, other. Your vote will count in this issue. Credit the Liberal Student Group with the idea. 18 YEAR OLD VOTE : Eighteen year olds are too young to know what is going on, they are not eligible to be drafted, but it might extend awareness to a lower age level, which, goodness knows, wouldn't hurt. It may also give school teachers, etc. a lot more influence. In the bitter war for men's minds, (and money), this just moves the boundary so there won't be an out of bounds. If you think the responsibility they would gain out weighs the decisions they would make, then vote for it. Issues on the studentbody elections which should be rewarded are more student involvement on curriculum, increased evaluation, more pressure to get students placed in responsible positions, more fiscal reponsibility, and ability to handle the job. It should be remembered that the officers chosen will not only function in the offices they are elected for, but as policy makers, and committee-aoDOintee electors. These respnsibilities may well decide the future of the college. It all comes back ultimately to you, the voter. By the way, which fraternity is he in? today Friday, April 10, 1970 editor Questioned again Dear Editor: I fully agree with Dr. GHdden's concern over the litter found on the Weber State campus (letter to the editor, March 27, 1970). However, I was disturbed to find him comparing our littered campus to a "Mexican slum". How does litter in a "Mexican slum" differ from litter in an "American slum"? Litter is ugly wherever it is found. It appears that Dr. Glldden, in his concern over the problems of the physical environment, is perpetuating . a problem of the human environment prejudice toward people of different ethnic backgrounds. Frankly, I was embarrassed that such a statement was made by a Weber State College faculty member. Jamss A. Dolph History Department GPA a criteria? Dear Editor: I feel, once again, as if I must call students' attention to another threat to their liberty, privacy and individuality. I am referring to Byron Wade's "Straight Talk" column in the March 31 issue of the Signpost. As a concerned student, I share many of the criticisms mentioned and as the former Academic Editor, I share his concern for desiring high academic standards, especially among our student leaders. However, I must take "issue with some of the ideas expressed by the article in question. How dare Mr. Wade assume that a "...candidate with a much higher average than his opponents, perhaps, better understands what school is all about." I wish to remind the Academic Editor that students are individuals with different cultural, educational and socioeconomic backgrounds. Students also have numerous and varied problems. An honor student does not necessarily have the "equipment" or capabilities to function as a political leader, possess the qualities of a statesman, or understand how to manipulate, lobby, organize and influence and persuade people to acheive desired "outputs". Also, a Political Science major with a 2.5 is hopefully better equipped than a Microbiology major with a 3.5 I must also inform Mr. Wade that officers are only required to maintain ' approximately a 2.25 cummulative average rather than the 2.5 for elections. Besides is not honor roll status, just another "bold lettered banner" to wave. I must also condemn the implications of the following ... "Maybe students at least consider grades as having some importance in deciding where to put that "X" this year." Is the Academic Editor suggesting that the grades of candidates be posted as a public record for their thousands of peers to see? Perhaps a more subtle method is being recommended, like the one available at present. This is where the grapevine gets the information and starts a rumor about "bad grades" against one candidate. This is little more than a "smut campaign".. I would like to state that each candidate must maintain a 2.00 for each quarter and at least a 2.25 cummulative average to maintain his position if elected. As such, I would like to suggest that the academic standards are more than sufficient. I would also like to suggest that student leaders and potential leaders can not possibly maintain honor role status and do as efficient a job as possible. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, and "viva la exceptions"! A concerned student, Byron Warfield-Graham |