Show PENROSE TOOK SLICE J JENNINGS EN N IN OS SAYS Train Ex-Train Robber Tells Committee Jake Hamon Paid for foi Hardings Harding's Nomination T v r March arch 27 The 27 The story about a big bi money deal at atthe atthe t the Chicago Republican convention in 1920 was repeated with many new dashes of color before the oil oh c committee today by Al Jennings who became notorious years ago I as a train robber ana ano since has hs turned evangelist and politician Jennings Jennings- sali he was passing on what had been told him by Jake Hamon the Oklahoma Republican Re ne- publican national man who was killed by Clara Smith Humon late hate In 1920 FOR PENROSE Briefly Hamons Hamon's story as related related related ed by Jennings on the stand to today today today to- to day follows i That Hamon had had nominated Warren G G. Harding for the presidency presidency presidency dency and that it had cost coat him Hamon That the cost of carrying Oklahoma Okla Okia- hema homa for Harding had been 3 00 That Hamon Hamon had paid Harry M. M Daugherty Daughert Senator Bole Bolea Penrose of Pennsylvania and Will H. H Hays chairman of th the Republican n national committee I That Hamon was to become secretary of the interior and share in the public lands and expected with the money he would make to later come become president I HAMONS HAMON'S CLOSE FRIEND Jennings said ho he had known Hamon for a a. number of ot years and had gone with him to the Chicago convention We went vent to a room in one of the hotels continued the wit wit- wit wit-I ness He told me Harding would be nominated the next day and I that tha lt It had cost him a a. a million doll dollars rs He said he had paid to to Doles Bolea Penrose and In Ina 1 a t conversation s1 ei tI n i it to was w put In some some way way-I way I will wm not be per 1 per deaf about it that It-that that it was was Agreed gred by Mr 1 Daugherty Will wm Hays and he named somebody else from Ohio that he would be secretary secretary sec see of the Interior He said it had all been leen settled He said Mr Daugherty was at first In favor of Senator Fall for tor the position but that he had bought them hem all over i but that it 11 had cost him a lot of ot I money to do it That Is about all allI I know of ot it I. I FALL IS FAVORED I II I understood that Mr Hamon told you that in the makeup of of the cabinet of Mr 11 Harding said Senator Spencer t Republican Missouri Mis Mis- Mr Mi in that Daugherty was favor tavor of ot Mr Fall Yes but that it had been al aU arranged that he Mr Hamon was to be secretary of the InterI Interior r. r Do you think all aU the Information Information I tion Uon he gave you turned out with the same degree of correctness as ash I Ih h hip h that That was the whole deal anc and that was wag what he expected to get in on Replying to Inquiries from Senator Senator Sen Son ator Dill Democrat Washington Jennings said He lie Hamon wanted me to I head one of ot his companies companie He lIe said the Democrats had not left I much of the public land but that I he would get the rest of it EYE ON PRESIDENCY Did he speak about the oil re reserves reserves reserves re- re serves He lie said public lands nothing that I can remember about oil re re- re serves He lie said money had been very potent in Washington as Inthe in inthe the outlying districts of the United States I have talked with people in Oklahoma about Hamons Hamon's expectations expectations expectations and I do o not think he kept it from anybody i NAMES OTHERS Did you talk with anybody about him being secretary of the interior K No 0 Did he say to whom he gave any money besides Senator Penrose Penrose Penrose Pen- Pen rose 1 Yes sir sir sir-Daugherty Daugherty Will Hays and a man man man-is is there a man named Manning l from Ohio well Ohio well someone in Ohio he gave There was a fourth person I Anybody else 1 I No one that I can remember Money w was s used indiscriminately Continued on page 5 PENROSE TOOK I SLICE JENNINGS SAYS I I Continued from page 1 t wIth the Oklahoma delegation Hes lIe He- s skid id It had cost him like hell bell to I get the New York delegation Did he say how much it cost I r No o sir I RAISES LAND QUESTION I 1 wish you ou would tell us Ip in a aI aI I connected way as well as your memory will serve you about what was vas said concerning the acquisition acquisition acquisition tion of public lands or the expectation expectation tation of ot the same said Senator Walsh Mr Ir II Hamon had at two or three I times before I 1 sot gol into this wanted me me meto to come back to Ardmore Ardmore Ard- Ard I more and asked me to go in with deal JenI Jen Jen- him in in its an oil deal replied replied- I I t dont don't 11 like to say It myself myself my my my- self sel but the thc people rather had confidence confidence confidence con con- It in me me- mein in Oklahoma and andI more than one oil company had I tried to use my name in the ex exploitation exploitation ex- ex of of companies in tn selling stock and Jake had repeatedly asked me to come in and form anew a a. anew new company and we could finance it with his money The company would be perfectly legitimate In talking about being secretary ot of the interior it was just a general general gen gen- I eral oral conversation and I 1 want to tobe tobe be perfectly frank with you I did I Inot not believe e in Jakes Jake's methods I had no faith in those methods method There was was one one orie reason I 1 liked liked him and adhered to his friendship That That was be because aus h he ie was the only lawyer lawyer lawyer law law- yer in Lawton who had extended his hand to me I 1 came ou out of prison WOULD HELP COUNTRY I would have ha hesitated a Ion long longtime longtime time about making the statement I 1 have today I 1 do not believe bellee I In a always always al- al talking about anybody I am ways v very ry reluctant In giving ev evidence evidence evi- evi dence even against a criminal BuI But Bu ButI I 1 believe our country is really i in I need of all aU the help It can ge geat get at this time After J Jennings had concluded h his I story Senators Senators' Walsh and Spen Spen- had a row over a statement credited to Senator Spencer In a dispatch from New York last night nigh The Missouri senator was quoted a as' as having said the oil inquiry was ac accomplishing accomplishing accomplishing ac- ac very little that th the people were weary of ot it and that tha things just as bad had happened under Interior Secretary Lanes Lane's ad administration administration administration ad- ad ministration as under secretary Fall I Walsh said said that he would pass pas the impropriety of a member of the committee commenting o on on its work in that way and would ask Senator Spencer on what hat information information tion he lie based the statement about abou Secretary Lanes Lane's administration s so the could investigate it Senator Spencer replied that h he would produce his facts in goo good time after he had made further investigation SPENCER HOLDS GROUND Do you ou believe the truth of your you statement asked Walsh I dd do not deny it Senator Spencer Spencer Spencer Spen Spen- returned Then Senator Senators Spencer said there was a report that Senator Walsh had visited E. E L. L Doheny on hi his private car to ascertain to what wha he would testify If It the senator asks me about abou that Senator Walsh I 1 will tell him that I never talked with Doheny before he appeared here and never saw his his' private ate car The crowd broke into applause and the committee adjourned until tomorrow POLITICAL DEBTS PAID Leroy W. W Baldwin president of the Empire Trust company New NewYork NewYork NewYork York City told the committee today toda of loans to the Republican national committee by that company compan aggregating aggregating aggregating gating and of their repayment repayment repay repay- ment with interest over a period of ot from two to three years ears The first loan was for made on September 27 1920 On January 21 1921 of ot this amount was repaid was re repaid repaid repaid re- re paid on April 18 1921 1921 and the balance balance balance bal bal- ance was paid on December 3 1923 Another loan of was made April 25 1922 and was re retired retired retired re- re tired finally December 3 1923 We Ve ne never neer er had any collateral on any of these notes Baldwin said The l loan an was was wa repaid as follows April 14 1923 February 21 1923 2 April 5 6 1923 25 November 21 1923 and the balance ott on December 3 I 1923 31 The Republican national committee commit commit- tee had a checking account opened September 28 1920 with a deposit of presumably the proceeds proceeds proceeds pro pro- from the note Bald- Bald VIp wip said He testified that in connection connection connection con con- with the first loan In government bonds were delivered by Will VilI H. H Hays former chairman of the national committee to Coleman Coleman Coleman Cole- Cole man DuPont chairman of or the Empire Empire Empire Em Em- pire Trust board They were sold I Ito to help retire the first loan Baldwin was unable to say how howall howall I all payments on the notes were made He Ho said notes were given for forthe forthe the he loans but when asked who I notes he I II I do not remember I An Anybody body except the committee asked Senator Walsh Vash I 1 dont don't think so General DuPont DuPont DuPont Du- Du Pont our president recommended the he loan to us and we took It upon his recommendation Do you know anything about a payment of ot or thereabouts by sy or from Harry F F. Sinclair No Xo sir Or by Mr Hays for tor him No sir |