Show an hoar at tile the tabernacle the two conferences of the respective branches of the church of latter day saints which were in session in salt lake city during the past week attracted many persons to the the city and abounded in much of interest to the outside world it if not or importance we ve have already printed some of the proceedings of the josephitis so called and today to day give a further report we arc sorry that we ive were not enabled to uy lay before our readers as full fall a transcript of the acts of tho the other wing stillie still Stil lNe v c have bave before us in a somewhat bat undigested state copious notes of one or two days proceedings at the tabernacle NN which aich we propose to notice hereafter we may remark however that it struck us if not as strange at least as remarkable that during the entire bession of the Brig we use that term for the sake of distinction and convenience solely we could detect no hearty or even simulated expression of regard for our country or sympathy with the government in its gigantic and holy struggle against rebellion un on the contrary not a few of the public speakers men who are tooled looked up to to guide public opinion if in truth they are not its exponents polien ts indulge in coerse ribaldry against the federal government and even chuckled malignantly over the horrors of tho terrible civil war raging at the he east i on saturday however we listened attentively to a more than average good sermon or addicts addi ad diess from elder orson hyde president of tho the council of the twelve apostles we are pleased to bo be able to say that it differed much from some of its predecessors abounded in some advice and coial precepts and was in the main exempt from those covert sneers against government which too often debock the eais of loyal men at tile the Tn bernacle there were some points however which matiuck us its as worthy of notice and of fair refutation for instance tho the preacher it while bile counseling his bearers to obedience to the laws of the united states in a strain or of unwonted enthusiasm for tile lie place qualified his ad advice ice by adding 11 ams which ale aio not unconstitutional now ns as a general proposition his bis is correct enough but when he went on oil to argue that unconstitutional laws are null and void and not binding on the conscience of any mm i with ith tile tho explanation that such man was the solo sole judge of the constitutionality of all laws lie he fell into it a very common most dangerous error the constitution which lie he at least affects to regard points out the method of testing tile the validity of all laws lang ind it is not by submitting them to tile the individual judgment ore Y man in the community even your own chief justice mr kinney N whose hose testimony we presume sume will hardly bo be contradicted bv the 8 I 1 saints tints in utah solemnly declai declared died ed ret rufen ening ing to the anti polygamy act that until it was declared unconstitutional by the proper courts counti it was binding on every mans conscience ind and was tile he supreme law of the land any other doctrine would be subversive of ull all law and incompatible with civil government if the aan davs acie ei e not thus submitted to a jis dispassionate passionate tribunal but left to the decision of laymen nab what at security ni would there be lor dorany any mans mand life liberty il ibert y or property i what bat safeguard to society Ocic tY if each min wele allot od to I 1 solute any law N with ith impunity by alleging it in his opinion to bo be unconstitutional which of your own laws law or t hos bof your country could ever be enforced no the doctrine is s not lot only a fallacy and its avo avoil tl an absurdity but its necessary consequences and i evolutionary in the extreme referring to our offit offer though somewhat v to print both bides of every question mr hyde re responded that he be did not choose to argue the huth of his doctrines with apos ates and asked if it 11 would not bo be unreason lam on able to expect him to adduce arguments to giove prove that the sun suit is inthe in the heavens and is the author of light what A m refutation to its his position is it that he was even thus laboring to co convince his hearers bearers that mormonism is the ti ainu ne anith faitha I 1 ir if as ho bug suggested the truths of nm in ar arc ils ha transparent and palpable abl c as th thattie a atthe estin sun exists in heaven a w why li does doe s he be ach a ch sabbath waste his prec precious iou S bre breath aith in frying to convince men of it why pas has this very conference taken men from their homes their wives their babes from the counter and the plough and all the avocations of life to tra travel se the nations of the world proclaim the truth and convince men of the verity of their creed his argument falls to the ilic ground of its own weight wei glit discussion alone colv bonvin in ces mens minds of the truth and elder hyde cannot without falsifying his own every act repudiate it by declining on such frivolous fribo IOUs grounds as ho he did on saturday ho he illustrated hiN disposition position by an anecdote la in philadelphia said he be bro an apostate challenged him to a discussion of the truth of mormonism ho he replied lit in those these words 1 I find no decol recoil d that when lucifer was pitched over the battlements of heaven god con descended to aggue with him as to his own righteousness now leaving aside the impropriety not to say irreverence of comparing himself to jehovah we can only say that while it was a pretty sharp retort it was neither more nor less than a weak dod dodge go we think his hearers bearers would have been as aa well satisfied had bad the speaker told them that ho be had accepted the challenge and overwhelmed his antagonist with argument and proof instead of avoiding a discussion calculated to test his own sincerity and the truth of his doctrines mr hydes tribute to the constitution of the land would have been entirely satisfactory to loyal cars had he not qualified it by the silly declaration we speak with all proper respect that if it berc ever altered or amended the whole would go to pieces has he for gotten that it has already been amended since it left the hands of our venerated forefathers not less than twelve times and in some of those amendments are found our chief security and the most precious pie cious bulwark ot of the citizens liberty as als well of conscience as of poison penson but we have extended our remarks already reidy al too far and must close for the present |