Show RIPLEY ON N THE STAND ExamIned and Al Almost Almost most to a Finish Jan Inquiry Into them or of the tho HarrIman lInc was up before I 4 toda today lt ly th Interstate commission Ripley or of the Santa Fe road wI the firSt witness Mr 11 Ripley was questioned by F B 13 for the tho commission Did Vou ou know Mr that the J 7 lion PacIfic owns or of stock in t h Santa Fe Fet t lid did not know it until I saw It In the dispatches from Now New YOrk ast Ud did you hear or of a desire on the rt of thu Union Pacific people to be t In the tho tor of the Santa r Some time ago so Certain parties In Now New rk Intimated ft a desire desho to represent t lain ain holdings of stock In our directory 1 nd I said that It would be agreeable to How them two directors provided the they not offiCers of competing lines Why He Objected Wh YOU object to the tho officers of I lines I 1 did not consider consider fo 1 desirable to have hae on the board IIo much of the tho stock Santa I Irl rl V did they hold 1 bout About or WhO ho did dla ask nolle to Jm have 0 abated H H Rogers and H C Frick You Yon understood those were directors o 1 thy h Pacific I lid Th said that lie he had no per cr knowledge whatever er ot of the tho tion of the Fe stock stoel b by the tho Union P Has the Santa Sonta Fe any agreement with 11 the Union or Pa for maintainIng certain rates or Is there thore an any There Is 18 no 1 pool no agreement re rotes rates Natural Competitors Hr ir Kellogg by a serious ot of questions l i from the tho that South Ott rn Pacific and Union Pacific were na natal tal 81 for much traffic ho he tw Ti n the east And the Pacific He President nip Ripley ley If the tho two did dd not maintaIn equal rates and the I 1 am not prepared to say asked Mr 11 Ripley have havo you an any Idea Idoo what th k It was as that voted oled for rs Frick Rogers Practically aU all or of It RIpley was b by D Milburn attorney for the Union Pacific Ho He asked d fIrst Ir If Rogers and Frick had over eer while acting as dl of th the Santa Re e discovered an any 1 irp to Injure It In favor or of the tho Union 1 Made Good Directors Nut at all alI replied President Ripley rIy are as good directors ns as we have hae the combination of the Southern 1 oilI Union Pacifies were those roads corn com of the Santa Fe asked Corn Com ml missioner lon r Prout No more than at present you Mid you ou would admit a represent of Mr Harriman as n a director but lint an officer of the tho Union Pacific What I f th difference rence 1 did not M ay that replied President ul I Raid aLd we 0 objected to th oboe elec elect t Ion as a director or of nn an oC officer or of the thc t nina Pacific as a personal r pres nta Continued on Page 2 INQUIRY TAKEN UP IN CHICAGO Coni n from Page 1 tire thc of Mr tr Harriman because we did not a ire an officer ot of another road In our I a Only Links in a I Chain Mr fr asked n a number of ques to show that the Union Pacific and the Southern Pacific systems wore were UnIts links in ft a railroad chain and not essentially active competitors throughout their entire length longthOn On redirect examination Mr 11 explained Was uVas the only reason why you accepted Rogers find nd Frick as directors In Instead instead stead of Mr 1 Harriman because the they were wera not actively interested in the tho manage management ment or 01 the Union Pacific They were not officers ot of nn any road b but t simply represented certain holdings The Tho examination of Pre President i ent Ripley Y COncluded with n a series ot of questions put alternately by Attorneys s Kellogg and Mu lUI 1 burn urn regarding through traffic to the thc Pa Fn Pacific coast Mr Kellogg desiring to show that the Santa Fe Southern PacifIc and the Union Pacific are competitors find and Mr tr Milburn to show hOW the reverse At the of the testimony of President ipley J the hearing was ad d tomorrow mornin j a at 10 oclo k |