| Show THE IRISH BILL Sir William Vernon Havcourt Gives His Views AXD GLADSTONE FOLLOWS Hill The Grand Schema BeIng Thoroughly Thor-oughly Ventilated by the hut lih Parliamentarians The Irish 11111 Rebate LOSDOS April 13Sir William Vernon Harcourt Chancellor of the Exchequer tonight resumed the debate on the Irish bill in tne House of Commons He began by saying that those who condemned the governments govern-ments measure failed to state an acceptable ac-ceptable alternative scheme Nobody accepted Mr Trevelyana plan Mr Chamberlains project was in turn repudiated re-pudiated by Lord Hartington and Mr Tre elynn Mr Chamberlain bad propounded pro-pounded a scheme great importance but that scheme had never been submitted sub-mitted to the government lie Mr Chamberlain has recom mended a federation What were to be those separate bodies in Great Britain and Ireland which were to be the subject sub-ject matter of the federation recommended recom-mended Mr Chamberlain had a plan to stay evictions by an actof Parliament Who has agreed to that policy Had he got the adhesion of Lord lIar nglol1 7 Had he got the adbeslon MrGoscben or the adhesion of the right honorable gentleman and noble lord opposite If he had not the Speaker should like to know how it 1sT Was it a pracica policy Lord Hartington had said that he did not admit the impossibility governing Ireland by a mingled system of remedial and repressive legislation legis-lation It was to the administration i of Lord Spencer that he thought the government of Ireland ought to be restored re-stored It has been stated by Lord Hartington that whatever the fate of this measure was the mere Introduction of it by a responsible government would do much that could never be recalled That was perfectly true but it was equally trne of the events of last June The consequences of those events could never be recalled Those events entirely chanced the whole aspect of the Irish question The course then taken made home rule inevitable Cries of Ohl Oh and laughter The speaker taunted the opponents of this measure with having no basis for an agreement on the Irish policy Did Mr Uoschenhe askea approve ap-prove Mr Chamberlains plan for a central cen-tral council at Dublin on the suspension of evictions l Had leaders lead-ers any policy except the condemnation condemna-tion of Mr Gladstones scheme 7 Lord Randolph Churchill Yes they are against the repeal in any shane or form Cheers The speaker retorted that that might mean as much as Lord Beacons fiel a denunciation of the five pound franchise at the very moment mo-ment when he designed to carry through the household suffrage measure I meas-ure Laughter Continuing he said the fact was that there was no alternative alterna-tive to the plan of the government except ex-cept the severest coercion This would require a strong government a government gov-ernment determined persistent in rerJistent harmony with itself supported by an overwhelming majority in Parliament and in the country Such a government had been dreamed of as resulting from a truce or party spirit and end of party warfare But it was not by the breaking up of parties that the strong government could be formed Reference continued the speaker ha been made to the Irish in America This heuse cannot for a moment be influenced by the action dastardly assassins like Ford and others But the nation in America is as numerous numer-ous as the Irish are nt home All possess the same instinct and the same sympathies They have not been parties to the action of assassins Hear hear These actions of assassins receive universal condemnation con-demnation from the people of the United States Irish and Liberal Lib-eral cheers But if you reject this bill do you believe are you sure there will not be sympathy with those assassins and their schemes Hisses and cries of Oh I Oh 1 believe there will be universal condemnation and disapprobation disappro-bation from rightthinking people Irish and American of such treatment of the Irish people Irish cheers Gladstone replied at considerable length He denied that the safeguards provided in the bill were dictated by a distrust of the Irish people On the contrary they were inserted in consequence conse-quence of the mistrust that was felt by others Mr Gladstone agreed that the Fundamental fear of those who attack the home rule measure was that the Irish people would necessarily do wrong that the administration of the country would necessarily changed tones 01 Hear bear In regard to the questions as to the power of veto by the bill he stated that there was no limitation to that proposition and in reference to the income tax that would necessar ly be as separate in Ireland as it would be in England Of the bill generally he said proposed to give to Irish people reasonable reas-onable satisfaction to their demand without imitating the example set by the former government in the case of America He ridiculed the fear that lad been expressed as to the further demands de-mands on the part of Irish members if hisbill were passed and as t6 the question ques-tion of there having been no mandate for this measure He contended that Inasmuch as there had been no mandate man-date for coercion or for maintaining the law sono mandate was necessary for the proposed bill to strengthen the means of maintaining the law He compared the criticisms on the bill and pointed out that no one speech agreed with anotherand speaking of the mea ure as a plan he remarked that it might be improved But at any rate it held the field as also did the subject Cheers The motion that leave be given to introduce was put by the Speaker and agreed to without division amid protracted pro-tracted and enthusiastic cheering |
