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Show i' V' Group Continues Campaign For Ordinance Anti-Sm- ut REVIEW, March 17, 1966 Dam Water Money (Continued from page 1) none of whom have the slightest in1. An immediate and large increase terest in the small irrigated fiirms on in water shares value. 2. An almost 50 percent increase in which $8 12 million is loaned, interest the crop production on their land.... free, biennially. from a crop income of $27.22 per . One man noted that the dams airich the sponsors by giving them enriched acre to $40.36 per acre. By investing only 10 percent of the water stock values..... The farmer has total cost, and repaying some 60 percent more increased value in his water shares through 1992, the sponsors will become than he has in his land, and this increased owners of a reservoir producing 4,050 value is the sole creation of an interest free loan or direct subsidy from the acre feet of water. The project will provide water for Utah taxpayer. Sen. Grover said he understands that 5,256 acres of land, benefitting 260 Of the total the Water and Power Board, in the people in 63 families. land, 4,806 acres is in the hands of next regular sessicn....the first regular session of the reapportioned legislasponsors. ture.. ..expects to asithat its interest The reservoir will provide supplemental water for 1,200 acres of alffree revolving fund be increased to alfa, 700 acres of small grains, 700 $10 million. T. Beck, Salt Lake acres of permanent pasture and 2,650 Rep. Edward acres of meadow hay. cant see the County, said that he In the biennium ended lq June, 1964, point of lending that much money intthe Utah Water and Power Board had erest-free. on its books 220 such projects with a Apparently unaware of how the Water total contract cost of $12,926,018.06. and Power Board functions, he could Of this amount (almost $13 million not believe that the state doesnt even total) less than $5 minion was being get water rights or something from invested it. initially by the sponsors. More than $8 million was being adAll they get is a lien on the property vanced, over long periods, interestfree, until the loan is paid off. He thought that there are laws and by the state of Utah. Delinquent payment penalties at 6 on the projects during the totaled only some $211 thousand. Still due the state from $8,2 56,712 .71 was $6,193,032.57, none of it drawing percent interest. Said Utah State Sen, Wendell Grover ( D. Salt Lake), "They say its todevelop recreation ana to build up the water reserve. 'Its pure Socialism, thats what it is! Sen. Grover declared, adding his observation get most that Republicans probably of it. He agreed that the reapportioned Utah should and in time probably will consider a tightening of procedures for spending and lending money by various state agencies, including Water and Power Board and Fish and Game Department. The Review learned that the opinion that the state is involved in unfair subsidisation of a limited private Interest is rather widespread, although silent on capltol hill. One disgruntled state employee observed that: 'Under the guise of developing water resources, they are blocking off small creeks.... withdrawing them from the states total water picture. "What we need is a comprehensive non --conflicting Interest and statewide water development program, making maximum use of all the streams of the state. This same spokesman asked: Why not bond....build dams.. ..get it all done now. Why not get the money invested now at todays values and pay it back at tomorrows decreased values now we do the opposite and those loans pay back making interest-fre- e the money at diminished value. Said another man exposed to state While they talk expenditures: the Weber County for a matter of $600 applied to public benefit. ...through the State Water and Power Board, and under the guise of public benefit the State doles out $5 million every year. This same state employee observed that: The scarcity of water and the problem of alleviating the scarcity is a major source of legal boondoggling and sharp operating procedures in Utah. The least they could do, he said, is to exercise a forthright public acknowledgement of what they are doing. One spokesman observed that the general taxes of the State of Utah are paid by 75 percent of the people.... State Legislature ricy Com-misrion corporation loan laws to govern that But there arent and type of thing they dont. The constitution provides that state money shall not be used for private purposes... .but our State Supreme Court has discovered that providing more water for a farm is a public purpose. Rep. Nellie Jack said that the new no doubt legislature, wiU "look into the matter. The Water and Power Board itself the Review learned, is getting worried. While trying to check out reports of the loans, the Review on mis-u- se learned that at its last meeting in Millard County the Board showed concern over a considerable abuse of the conservation-recreation-larecovery theory. Seems there are several instances in Millard County where persons sponsoring such projects and owning the valuable water rlghts,lease out the water at a fine profit to other users. The type of thing the new legislature might wish to look at: a. Persons, including a dentist, who own water shares in state financed projects, but do not have the land to put the water on... .its a profit investment at state expense. b. Persons who have land and water shares, but dont use all their water on their own land... .they lease some of it out at a profit. Some state employees note that President Johnson and the Little Hoover Commission see eye to eye on the need to view public money as a part of a p states capital, from which it maximum productivity. We can no longer permit money to remain unproductive....taxation cm property has reached its maximum. We must ferret out the wasteful use of money.... like interest free loans.... and put that money to work... .we must find new uses for public money. While critical of the Water and Power carte blanche cm use of its Board revolving fund, a state employee observed: The test of valid legislation should be: Would the people stand still for a direct appropriation to those same interests for the same amount of money? The Water and Power Board investment, he continued, ls a direct appropriation to a select few private interests It is an interest free loan of money taken from the taxpayer. urban-domlnat- nd must-develo- Q. (Continued from page 1) A: Well, we live neither in a facist society or an anarchistic one. We have reached a mean where we have some degree of control We dont allow minors to buy liquor or tobacco or guns without instruction. They just don't have the judgement to know how to handle these tilings - why should we permit them to buy obscene material Q. Isn t it possible that later authorities might go beyond the concepts you now hold? A. Yes, It Is. We would hope not. Q. What safeguards are built in to How dangerous do you really think this obscene material is? A. An eminent professor race said that good literature is a powerful force in shaping young minds.. If good literature is powerful - we believe that pornography is similarly destrucHve. It has been said that this kind of pornography can lead to influence criminal or Immoral acts. True there Is no proof of this one way or another. But most of us dont want to wait to have our daughters raped to find out.Ibelieve it is a catalyst - its like pouring gasoline on a fire. Q. How about the objection that an or- dinancewHr only drive it underground. A. I admit there may be some truth in this. But as long as I as a parent permit this condition to exist I dont take a stand. I hope well be able to keep the underground effort to a small drivel -- but I feel that I must act firmly against it as an example to my own children, after all how many youngsters even know their parents are against it. Q. How about Hie constitutional press? Rampton Firirj (Continued from page 1) according to all specifications. Mr. Brewster was the one who threatened to take the state demands to Hie people. He said that the only opposition to his plan has been stirr.ed up in the press by selfish interests. He did not identify Hie selfish interests. Nor did he attempt to explain the business qualifications of the groups response to Hie governors four-poi- nt demand. Mr. Brewster wants Hie deed to the entire property placed in escrow when we have done enough to justify obtaining possession of Hie deed. He indicated that this would be after the Initial Investment of $25,000 to see if water can be brought from the lake to the embayment under the pavilion. It was Governor Ramptons thought that enough would not be done to justify deed transfer until the entire project is done although he was amenable to a contract that would assure transfer of the deed once restoration has been completed according to predetermined speci-- fi cations. The group represented by Brewster and VanFrank would know by midsummer if water could be brought under Hie pavilion. If it could be, a total of $100,000 would be sprat to develop the embav-me- nt The group contemplates another 18 months to complete Hie restoration.... a time during which the state has no intention of paying fire or liability insurance on the existing facilities. City Studies Flood Control (Continued from page 1) Jordan be straightened out where it (Continued from page 1) cans of dried paint dont want the places closed because Sister Mary Frances - of Guadalupe there were few other places they could Mission voiced the opinion that landlords go. should provide rental units to tenants At least in the South you know where in suitable condition and should not can and cannot got remarked Betty you expect renters to put diem in condition. Bens, Here its hidden, here you have She advocated the idea of a $25 deposit to guess, saying After the third deposit they Some of the welfare recipients comrespond. plained about a special form of prejudice Mr. Weis told of a tenant that called Once from landlords toward them. and said the sink had fallen off the wall they find out youre on welfare they ....his conclusion, she sat on it. Another turn you down, said one. tenant demanded that a window be reAnother problem uncovered by tne paired, and claimed that someone had session.. ..many people arent even aware thrown a rock through it from the outof Hie benefits available from the multithe broken glass was on the out side tude of programs under public welfare. side porch. Its the job of the caseworker to make The Department of Public Welfare the Information known....but with two came ha for a slew of criticism during days per week on paperwork die sessloQ...mostly from landlords who Mr. Wies noted If they belong on welfare they should receive a living complained of late checks and caseworkers who dont understand the nature wage,...JI they dont belong they The meeting became shouldnt be on the roles. cf their jobs. Mr. Baxter heated when a caseworker present rereplied that one of Hie problems was a 35 percent turnover in caseworkers dursponded to that jibe. Mr. Baxter, ot the Welfare departHe added The people ing the year. ment, admitted that the degree of red operating it didnt write the rules tape in the department was formidable. Fve been in the department for 15years, While case loads for caseworkers have my hands are tied by those above me. been cut down The average worker The seeds were planted, some long held has to spend two .days per week filling prejudices might have been shaken a bit out forms. any rate another meeting was set The landlords would like to get their for next week. checks directly from the welfare department - but this Is not allowed under the present system. A Channel 5 representative with tape The case of the tenants was heard recorder and microphone walked late from a petite woman who held a baby on Into commission meeting seconds after her lap as she told her grueling story Commissioner Barker began talking in a soft, quiet voice. about the Provo obscenity ordinance. She had been trying to get the landCommissioner Barker suggested that lord to make basic repairs for over a Salt Lake City might need some kind of year. Finally she held up the rent until an ordinanct in Hie future and it would he did a few, a smat he made them be a good idea to be in on the court arguments on Hie Provo ordinance. tering. She complained about abroken column, He suggested that Hie city attorney the landlord put in a small 2 x 4. the be permitted to cooperate with the Provo column fell and cut her sons head attorney and assist in Provos de fense of their case. badly. She told the landlord of the mice in the place. He did nothing; the board Salt Lake City, Jim Barker said, evenof health gave her some powder which tually should have an ordinance that will hold water constitutionally. didn't help. The gas leakslnThe furnace, the water pipes are broken, Mayor Lee declared that he was opposthe floor needs paint. ed to any kind of censorship, but the tape And she kept smiling! recorder microphone was placed only Negroes in the area have special for the statement by Mr. Barker. When the statement was made, the TV problems. One Negro woman said that Negroes and Mexicans will put up with man picked up his microphone, packed up his tape and wait away from the unsatisfactory conditions because they meeting. ..jat A. I believe that irfa democratic society we have to balance rights. I believe that the presence of this material threatens my rights. I dont need proof that my are threatened rights just the belief is enough. I think the Supreme Court has gone overboard to protect individual rights. It s time we started thinking about society's rights. Q. Isnt there some concern that those pushing the effort might get the ordinance passed and feel that Is all the effort needed? A. Thats a valid concern. We must continue it and make It go. (Continued from page 1) or no bulwark against this material will get hooked -- the same way a person can get hooked on alcohol or drugs. They begin to think the kind of no training stuff portrayed here Is acceptable. Q. Youre had much criticism on the basis of objections to censorship one this week from, the Utah Library Association. What is your feeling bout this? A. I wish the Library Association could see their way to working with us instead of against us on this matter We want to upgrade the standards - and help put better literature on the shelves. We were careful to make sure that this ordinance would be okay. We checked with an attorney in Provo. The committee in Provo even checked with the Attorney General - hes opposed to our point of view, but he told us he thought the ordinance would stand. Actually this isnt censorship. Were just asking that Hie material be placed beyond the reach of children. If a youngster goes in with a parent or guardian to a store or movie which violates this ordinance and asks for the material - its his. Were not a fanatic group - we just want careful control. Q. How about this case wherein the ordinance has been taken to test in Hie federal district court? Theres been some talk that vour group Objects. A. We don't object To a court test of Hie ordinance - in fact we would welcome it, if it were in a district court tn Hie community. We just object to its having tera taken first to the Federal Court being a final goal? A. Definitely not. We see It as only a first step. Then we must embark on a positive program. ing When It became apparent, in the discussions, Hat the not ready to discuss joint and after a was named to study areas we the county. Mayor Lee protested want the county to come into Hie city and let out some contracts. torney study the program to determine by the if city rights are being abused county We know that the money has been wasted in the past, the Mayor said. He recalled that Hie city had invested some in flood control before the city joined in the Master Flan, and he wondered if there were some way to compel a credit or reimbursement of the Mr. Catmuii ohserved that the County Master Plan is over designed for the future, and there is some indication that there is no over designin some areas of the city. The City Commission agreed in prim cipal that a brad election would solve aU problems and Mayor Lee is con vinced that the people would approve a brad election if the problem Is proper' ly presented to them. City Attorney Homer Holmgren, asked by Hie mayor if the county has any legal obligation to provide flood control for the city, declared that: a The county has Hie authority to levy flood control tax and in equity and justice should spend some of that money In the city. Control, however, has been placed enof the County Commission. tirely in the hands The discussion ended with a resolution Hie City attorney and the City engineer should investigate and advise the city commission on how the city portion of that the Master Flood Control program can be Improved. The Mayors concern, however, brought immediate and significant response from County Commissioner Marvin G. Jenson. After a Tuesday afternoon meeting in the Mayors office. Hie two commission chairmen scheduled a March 30 (11 A. M) meeting of the two commissions In County Commission chambers. Various possibilities for cooperative action and duplication of services, including flood control problems and health department consolidation will be discussed. The chairmen also agreed that the City Commission wtil be Invited to join the county commission at a date still to be set to hear a report from the county manager of Arixraas Maricopa County. In other action before the City Commission, Jim Barker racked up points with Channel 5 quite early sheriff was operations, committee of possible joint operation Still more time was wasted with Jim Barker and Mr. Creer trying to set a date for a progress report on the committee findings. .The sheriff saw no need to set a date. Mr. Barker never heard of a committee getting anywhere unless it had a deadline on which to report to the higher authority. The sheriff was interested only in efficient, effective law enforcements Assistant Chief of Police C. C. White-he- ad and Sheriff Lt. C. D. Evans, it was agreed, would pander the Public Administration Service study report of last August If nothing else, they can try to find areas where joint function is NOT acceptable to one or the other side. Sheriff Nielsen seemed to feel that it be much easier to find areas of The sheriff persisted in his determination that no date need be set for a progress report but sentiment obviously was against him and he finally agreed to a progress report meeting at 2. p.m. on Monday, April 11. would After the meeting adjourned and in soft undertones, as though he were ashamed of the idea, the sheriff did invite Mr. Barker to his office for informal discussions and Mr. Barker jumped at the opportunity. I Mr. Barter expressed his disappointment that the two departments just now are beginning to undertake discussions that the PAS study report urged be undertaken last August before oc cupation of the Hall of Justice. Flood Cure? 23 AcreLake Officially, the confereesbarely agreed that the assigned officers will study only the PAS study report and determine what they cant consider jointly. (Continued from page 1) The possibility has been given to tne salt Lake County Citizens Advisory Committee on flood control for study as weU as to the countys consulting engineering firm of Caldwell, Richards Sorenson. On Tuesday the County Commission aooroved Hie 2 year old Master Flood Start Turning, an Investigation Gets Underway and Control plan for Salt Lake County. This is a necessary step in obtaining federal assistance. The commission made it clear that the plan was being approved subject to of a lake in Hie Cottonwood area would constitute such revision. The possibility a revision. Commissioner Jenson said he is examining the possibility of other lakes or along the stream beds. He noted that the proposed lake would aid the situation along Mill Creek as weU, since Hie Upper Canal waters couldbe emptied into the lake without dis- -J Records and training were cited in report and by Mr. Barker as impor-ta- nt areas of possible joint functioning. the Demonstrating the depth to which he has considered the proposal for consolidation or joint effort, Sheriff Nielsen asked at what level of authority he could negotiate with the police department. He was told that procedural matters could be discussed with Hie police chief policy matters would be discussed with Commissioner Barker. control reservoirs -- Maybe, Just Maybe.,. . oiq nv niwHnfpjf) o j?v:s )cflTajLi Jneaoi saaiii . turblng the 'Big Cottonwood Creek situation. High points around the area of Hie proposed lake now a natural part of the contour of the land where high ground could provide a natural marina and playground area. The commissioner expressed his opinion that the lake besides providing flood control and water storage could become one of the most outstanding recreational areas in the entire county. . .tut! u3 fyliop in passes Jordan Junior High School. The money should not all be sprat in Mayor Lee suggested that the city at- Landlords, Talk Problems make sure that basic rights arent infringed? A. A license is required that costs $5.00, this removes the possible objection of not having prior knowledge. Upon suspicion of a violation ten people would have to concur in the existence of a violation. Then they would have to convince the city or county commission of the existance of a violation. Three violations are necessary before any kind of conviction can be reached. Q. Couldnt this ordinance violate basic rights of free speech and free , Juddy Balks At Joint Use Overparkers. Buy A Ticket (Continued from page 1) issue a citation, Instead she would issue a 25$ credit slip. A carbon of Hie credit slip would be processed in the traffic violations bureau and deducted owners from the vehicle $10 contract deposit If the motorist should overdraw his account without cra-tra- ct renewal, a $5 penalty would accrue.....but the motorist could renew the contract as often as desired Back to our overparked vehicle; if the metermaid comes back an hour later and the vehicle is still parked in the same tone, a routine parking citation would be issued The program would apply only to overtime parking and would permit only one overtime ex-t- en tl on. 4 Judge Jones, who said Hie idea comes from a plan now in use in New Albany, Indiana, explained that several thousand businessmen probably would participate in the contract program. WHATS SO GOOD ABOUT A BRANCH BANK? You Gotta Know the Territory Somewhere in your neighborhood Is a Continental branch bank. It may not be right across the street, but its pretty close. Maybe you know about it. Maybe you even know that they can take care of practically all your banking needs ...... savings accounts, even an installment loan if you need one. But Hie best part is that the Continental branch banker is your neighbor and your friend youll get that personal service you might not find elsewhere. Contact Jim Burns at Continentals South Temple Branch (South .Temple A E Street) or Tom Wiseman at the Central Branch (1575 South Main). Theyd be glad to help you. also said the program assure a low cost fee of only 25$ to motorists in a He would group of repeat violators who lave parking payment problems which function at exhorbitant costs to both Hie city and the violater. now The present procedure,, he said, involves a cost to the city of at least 50$ for the simple process of mailing a warning letter to a parking violator. Thousands of parting citations issued annually cost the city up to $10 each for total processing to final court action by the city. Judge Jones said he will confer on the program with downtown business groups, automobile association representatives, physicians, and lawyers and others wnose business tends to cause frequent overtime parking violations. Continental Bank Member Federal DepoeU Insurance Corporation Now Serving you at Six Very Convenient Locations J 200 South Main 23rd East & 21st South 1575 South Main South Temple at E Street Highland Drive & 70th South Redwood Road & 41st South |