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Show r ner c - ?"' f - 'm r renr r rX"'" j arvrwwrw- t' I I - ww-- w rgtypM r . , :i I I V. THE PAYSONIAN, PAYSON, UTAH DECEMBER 10, 1920. 't j ,y T f J AJ ! - c; ; VAstt"-.'- . V I i '' A. . rv '.- $ sa Prophetic and striking on the .. possibilitSi'of a league ot nation mads bf two great Americans yrrsx .ago - jo iave come to light. Evarts thought of What WilHenq-ljsueh a plan asf far back as 188 was set down by JTilliem V. Rowe,' long firm of associated with the law JoHow Choate? ft Beaman. Evarts, seph H Choat looked upon the idea and his comments on Mr. Evarts s suggestions as' recently as Angust, 1907, was also sot down by Mr. Rowe. These notes of two memorable conversations have been transcribed by Mr. Rowe and were presented to the public for the first time through The New York HejaltL "" " TO T&iiiWfuny the significance oi these two striking opinions one must recall the public serivee of the two great men who gave them. William M. Evarts served as Attorney Gen era! of the United States; as secretary of state; was senator from New Yoik; counsel before the Geneva tribunal in the Alabama case; of counsel In the impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson and counsel before the electoral commission in the Hayos-Tildecase. Joseph H. Choate served as ambus sador to the court of St. Jamess; headed the American delegation at the second peace conference at The Hague and with Mr. Evarts, for more than a generation was looked upon as an authority on international law. L w-- n ' J"! t Prophetic Words of Two Great Statesmen and Authorities on International Law, Uttered in 1889 and 1907, Recorded at the Time by Office Associates arid Just Given Publicity. The Hague Conference Offers a Workable International League. a are- -- eon-fin- Prophetic. Work About Germany. All military and autocratic nations are' savages, brutes and hypocrites and under Bismarck's misleading tutelage, Germany is the worst of the lot, with a population at this time that is absolutely unmoral, docilo and servile, stealing from others, ai . ' interfering-wit- e : ,4 tV S .t- y SA , ' rir - - h . f A yf t ready for a broader nationality e ternational life as it ia to separate right from wrong in our moral life or heaven from heU in onr spiritual lifee. That separation will be truly fundamental and necessary for a thousand years, perhaps forever, because it is a matter of race, and considerations arising from --acial differences and differences in environment and historical development cannot be wiped out in a minute. As you say, Amonea ean be depended upon to help them at all times in her own way, but Washingtons far see. ing view of these matters, in the farewell address, mast always control As he pointed out, as I remember it, such a political separation has noths ing to do with our trade and and under Bismarck's misleadr morce and general commerieal We can always eat off diplomatic and political arrangements with- eem-crite- roin-tion- a 'The . the Mysteries, tmH OMna " We shall have to help Franco, which is in constant contact with this brutish world menace, and which was terribly hurt and bruised by tho barbarian Bismark, much as a delicate flower is hurt by the ruthless blow of a savage. Tho beauty and the artistic and general culture of French life must be preserved, for they ftr0 absolutely essential as spint-maqna R89ets and as elements of the greatest value to civilization and in world advancement. Franee will read ily join us and England as she may be able. I like this rough sketch of a It is treaty you have read to me. sensible -- and very, .complete, but tne world as a whole will not be sufficient, ly advanced even for thAt, I fear, The'GerrmanB arc for many years. in the way. However, by shutting them out a perfectly practicable at perhapa a world eommonwealth- a hundred or a thousand yean after you aad I are gone. tsdse-rr-io- ns If you are doaling with weightf nations without any sense of moral obligation (as we and the English and French understand it) what is tho use of a treaty 1 You have got to have some force, as a sanction, at any rate, to cover such cases some police power and blockade provisions undoubtedly. Of, course, it is use- leas even to attempt to bring Ger. for instance, into such a treaty. What does she care or know about morals or moral obligations, as we understand them! I f 1 A trade, At Must maintain onr iadtvMoal position, standards, and pasties unimpaired, if mot , ' forever, at loast antH we have ado. eated and aisiellated "our mixed popo-. 're lation and antil they aad the world''1' 'Jp out restated and repeatedly You have hit that nail squarely on the the Hiy always has done, both idea, as I have said I will admit resourccvs and that England, France and America confirmed. His conclusion was: 'That the hecd lav must supplant war. idea. "I I" material You are right on that head also? 1 'recognizing no neighborly or world might make at once such a is all very good; I don tr treaty am sure that we are approaching the obligations. of cooperative alliance as you have exception-t- o" any part of your time for international action perhaps The German people are now back outlined, and it would be a good treaty.- this very alliance I have mention- in the dark ages, in a class thing - to do, J each preserving fully At The Hague, in August, 1907, by by themto ed force on the bepeace permanent owe sovereignty, including our its selves. of this I speak when discussing the general situation strongly, nations. so. is do cause to American doctrines it as to peculiar vory necessary there and while he was complaining Law, not war, really rules the They are a shocking menace to the Europe and the western hemisphere, German tho of very emphatically world even today. As law enters the and oaeh participating in its own opposition to arbitration, I was lead door war flies out of the window. good order of the world bkc any other beast in surroundcultivated wy by agreement, in police measures to repeat these talks with Mr. Evarts Some must be found to nourish way and by force and blockade. The national cannot bo trusted. ings they and to tell him in detail about the and fertilise international law, to the Trade with them, if you w ill, as obligation and moral pressure would sketch for a treaty whi& I made that the world may have law, Washington said of Europe Mr. ond generally, take care of all that. nearly twenty years before, and order, in place ot but keep out of all We must keep American doctrines adjudication political 'and Choate had been a good deal annoyed war, reprisal and anarchy. We must diplomatic entanglements with them. and sovereignty intact. There can by many of his experiences at this have periodical world conferences of That is a perfectly practicable ar- be no overlord for us. That crippling mind and his with conference, spoke the nations, at short intervals, to of sovereignty would set back our rangement. considerable freedom and emphasis. thrash out the public opinion of tho to an unimaginable exLong after I am gone the world development world and to promote the growth What Mr. Evarts Said. will have to wake up and watch tent We must keep out of the affairs of international law. the Germans and set up barriers, as of other continents, and must World peacef Why notl The only But you cannot make a silk purse our operations and obligations, as would against a wild bull until way to stop war is to stop it. World out of a sows ear, and you cannot you aa ' practicable, to the western far is tamed. That will probably be control by the nations means simply make world peace all at once out ot he hemisphere. We shall never have a lot of unrefined, undeveloped brute the' special work of England and self control. "It is just aa fundamentally necAmerica, but it will be a white man's another war with England. 8he and nations. After to separate ourselves from all, what is there to essary burden, to be borne courageously, we are alike in laws, in morale and any treaty whatever except its moral European entanglements in our indeliberately in spiritual aspirations. Onr dispute Was Brought Up. We can, will be family quarrels. or adcame have the he how to arbitration for that reason, by Telling conversations with Mr. Evarts and justment, settle all questions with her, Mr. Choate about an . international because we understand one another and know how to arrange matters league, Mr. Rowe says: In the late spring of 1889 J on a common basis. Mr. had several discussions with Not only so, but we can also Evarts, followed by otner confirmatory go further England and we alone, talks at different times, on tho sub- with France.. with whom there will ject of an international arrangement always be a good understanding, can for the prevention of war, the settle keep the peace of the world until ment of all international get gradually disputes the other nations and the scientific development ot ready to join ns in duo eourso ot international law. I had prepared a natural development. It will be to do him to a this. draft of told our and rough treaty advantage I would read it to him, for at this Alliance and cooperation of septime Mr. Evartsa eyes had almost arate sovereign units, each independcompletely failed. ent, but working with the others Senator Evarts manifested r ex. under a general working arrangetraordinary interest, and when I had ment that is the right idea, and finished he at once began to com- that will be the real foundation for ment. and what he said was later world peace for many generations. How the Subject . 4? T World Peace as Seen by ,W. M. Evarts arid Joseph H. GKoate ; r -i--- W i I i A wr t-- - ' a 31 , J f it VJ- - t anarchists, , socialists and radicals do not trouble . I4 '' me much. They are merely foreign to os aad ignorant and insane to a greatsr or less degree. Bat I am afraid w-of the wild Germans uneouflned by i an international high board and I aonfeas that Russia aad Chian A , are almost unknown quantities te,'-me and are difficult problems, '''vjy , I hope, you win live to sec the prlneigns of your draft.tyeaty worked A A t out. It is nil n matter of poblie r opinion. Orguoiae that opinion . la America, England and France, by an,- - k' a, agreement against nil ware, and yon ;vAA will have no wars In the future; 4 NO matter how the nations may be, and no matter what the cause or question in difference; Aj M if the nations are truly civilised, and, their advanced public opinion is pro-',- 'f perly enlightened, matters will be and there will be no wareA Not only but such nations win nations. r ' stop ware between other That ia th point. There ia no reason why we should not go into sneh an arrangement. That would not be among the opMsed-.b- y permanent alliances Washington, He and Jefferson were thinking offensive and defensive tioular alliances, which would act ualfy draw us, perforce, away from the western hemisphere into all Euan impossible situarope quarrel tion. "Two good things I like in yo,.1 "SU? treaty the confining of our police work to onr natural joints in the Western hemisphere aad the Orient, s'; what we would naturally attend to anyway and than, the provision for H1' not more than six representatives a single nation, but with only aingle vote. That will give representation at all meetings to colonies and . Wr AK, harum-scaru- m fenao'V d nd-jnst- pr ' W . -- --T on Next (Continued Page.) TRirrmtTnw .Mibinl ' a X an accurate account of your Receipts and Expenditures, Pro J'EEP ijk r . e?' fits and Losses, so . that at the end of the fiscal year you will have no worry with the Incomes. Tax Man. . . . . 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