Show hoew 0 N 1 I V 7 7 OF MORIDA J rit file fe feb b 2 23 sa 18 3 oil aind act e en titled an pet to ameail t ll 11 r aul theun it lit trang A T band tor for Iteli oilier a ed I 1 a continued mr maxcy I 1 should like to asir the senator from florida sir call I 1 yield certainly mr hascy doe does the senator Kiy that the congress of the united states which has exclusive columbia jurisdiction over the district of columbia has not a right to pam laws a s against a i n R t burglary 1 fornication bigamy b a y or any other crime recognized a 4 it crift crimS against public e 1 d decency m u 4 1 i mr cali af t f ij mr Macy if if as right in in the district distri ct of columbia olum bia where id is lie the dividing viding qi line beaw between e N the power of con congress ress over the district and over any territory ferrit orv that belongs to the united states macall Mr call 1 thia this is not a question of the ali e punishment of crime if this bill proposed to declare my in the territory of utah should b be crime and upon uvon indictment and trial md conviction conviction that there should Kea a punishment attached alti bed I 1 should have nothing to say but this bill proposes to disfranchise a whole people why because it s aya says they cn c entertain n on opinions inious dafler ent from those which the senator from vermont and the senator from texas entertain upon the su subject b of polygamy without trial without conviction without licar ing and without tit hout evidence this bill proposes to disfranchise a whole people and deny them the right 0 of self government on the ground that they hey arc are guilty of criminal practice 4 and find have laws on 0 ii the subject of their domestic relations I 1 a wil hicl atif conerl ye re declare by law that the people of the district of columbia should be denied self government becaas i did taid not approve ve of their religious T eli olous opinions iol and practices and and regarded them as imin immoral ornI and irr irreligious legious and detrimental detrimental detriment pl it would be a case somewhat sa 1 in paint point but still distinguished from froin this by the fact that congress by the constitution is made the exclusive legislative power of the district air maxey I 1 would ask the senator if the congress gs of the united state stat had not a perfect ri rih i litto tto pass a law prescribing llie the u 11 of voters I 1 in u any territory under the exclusive jurisdiction t 1 I 1 state bopf I 1 mr call provide they do not prescribe euch such qualifications qualification i as are of opinions 0 or r acts acta of which the they y have lat riot I 1 been convicted and for temporary government in the territories and not in denial of their righta rights 0 or odilie principled principles of government established by the constitution mr maxoy maxey the senator does not comprehend toro Tom what I 1 ask if congress can cun pass ft a law declaring er 21 years of age have they not that right to the exclusion of all other person 6 i 1 arall Mr Call all T Mr fr baxey Maxey I axey suppose all the tile law should declare that mr call cail it is perfectly y competent for congress to say that none but persons over 80 ut that would be impossible in practice not be le miti atthe united T i to say that boys of 21 years believed b that the catho 11 11 ch waa right should vote or that tho lh church was or that polygamy wa castig sTig ell pr that polygamy was w S w wang r n why W V jtb ali ahse oae are are com commie i W ittel il by bifi of govar nent an i the religious part to nobody but the domestic relations of the tile local 1 government covern and there is an absence of power in the constitution ot alie t lie anite and iu the govern anent in en t otlie ottlie united states to pre shall relations latis rc of the people and therefore as hat power is absent you can not lot supply it for the territories by analogy it belon belongs p to tile peble people upon ti alie principle that this government goar rement is on the ca p aci y of odthe people diio lc as the competent and antro controlling ali power 6 1 to Og cgovern govern oVern their domestico dome stio 1 mit property a and rights relative to each other that ia tha I 1 principle of our government if ifft it be true that tha t the capacity of a majority of 0 f the people ill in the tile diffie different red localities is the life and principle of eur stir constitution then congress oni gress has no right to say the lie majority of these people be b because because of their opinions of this or that or the other kind the senator from vermont and the senator from fr orn texas gay F ly to me but how of a 0 state of war upsets i toe the strong 11 hand and of t pon 0 er knows no constitutional is not lot I 1 The question 1 rase ra in point here is is whether because congress on arc 4 establishing a territorial goberm b ent may say that none but persons ns of 21 years of ago age shall ball vote more therefore the they may day bay that coin missioners ners shall deny derly to a majority of the people the right to vote be i cause in their opinion tho the majority are guilty guilt 0 of f crim criminal inal practices and to pr a ce t lie government in the hands of a minority mino rit who will do dc ny fly that the principle of this government is the ca capacity acety of the majority jet ity of t ac he deop people e in in every locality to dk determine ermine their own domestic relations toward each other such 03 marriage marria e such as the criminality of this m that t or the tile other act or the propriety of this thi that or tho the other act will my friend from texas show mo me the part of the con tion tiou which rivca ives a right to discredit the capacity of a majority of the people to govern thams elvei in their own affairs afra irs mr maxcy maxey I 1 will state to the senator from florida that every state prescribes the qualifications of its voters it has a right to say that a woman may or may not vote rote it lias has a right to my say that a man convicted of murd murder ershall shall not vote it has a right to say the one who docs does not pay taxes shall not vote it has a right to say that certain property qualifications shall exist and some state do so I 1 am not speak in of the question of what they ought to do but of the tile question of power today to day there areSta are states in the th union in which those who are twenty one years of age naturalized citizens of the united states are tire not permitted to vote and there arc are in other states men who because they cannot read the constitution arc are not permitted to vote if the government of the united states sees proper to say fig a ques tiou of public policy that certain parties shall not vote in a territory have we not the power to do it sir mr call undoubtedly ao so but that ii is not ill the que question tion that does not reach the case caile beyond a doubt every state can and anti by a majority odthe of the people in conformity with its state laws lias has a right to say sy who shall ahall vote vate and who shall not vote and at what age they shall yo vote te what qualifications there shall bo be on but it baa bus nut not the power to say that men shall not vote if they are catholics or if they arc are Protes protestants tanti or if they entertain this thi that or the other religious belief mr fr edmunds this bill does not contain any any such proposition mr call I 1 beg my my friends bardou eardon that is all there is ill ip the bill ill mr Ed edmunds mundi point out the clytise cl utise mr call I 1 will ec er deaver to do so before I 1 get through that is the reason it is a flagrant attack upon 0 our ur re religion igdon an and d our christianity ti and the influence of the christian minister nod and the efficiency of tho dia christian gospel a flagrant gra antao assault ault if it be true that the hand of legislation and power is needed to supplement the tile majesty of truth of relis iob and to crush out error then our religion is a fiti failure lure 7 mr logan it depends on what we 6 call christianity whether we call having ten wives christianity I 1 mr call the worship of almighty god ac according cordin to the dictates of ever every roans mans conscience is religion iBri C christianity kr istian ity follows divine title example le which refused to accept the aid ofle of legions giom of angels with the sword bur but confronted error with tile persuasive argument of I 1 truth and the sublime egami example le of the saviour upon the cros cross cro s that is christianity and tho tile christian re rc ligion and our form of government I 1 prohibit A the exercise of any ally power 1 by Cong congress iress respect i ng tile estabi ish anent ot religion or prohibiting the freo free exercise exercise ill thereof cleof what does tho the senator from illinois understand to be the meaning of relic religion r rion mr logan allow mo me to call the I 1 I 1 SW senators acors attention to this the lall till docs does not apropo te to inquire into religion it proposes to who are guilty of cr crime anle it is against what is considered a crime it docs doba not prohibit anybody from enjoying hi his is r religion ift i ion if ho e believe believes that aseph joseph smith was ii a prophet he be has a right to be lieve it it t docs lines not prohibit anybody from believing that bul bull we ire consider polygamy not religion anil and not Christi christianity atilt but ut a crime mr call they do not who is to judge mr logan we e are to judge we jire are the la law maker makers and we are the judges today to day as to whether polygamy 9 is h a arinie crime or abc acc mot when we under undertake wco to legislate mr cull calli if you will find an anything 2 1 ill in iu in the tile constitution of the 1 united states directly or indirectly that sustains that statement I 1 will be glad to acknowledge my error mr logan I 1 will rill say any to the senator that if it the catholic religion relf gian or tin anny other othe r religion taught murder polygamy arson aron bribery perjury or any odthe of the crimes that are known a as felonies wo we certainly should have power to legislate against the tile crime and against that which tended to the crime without affecting what persons might believe as to a god or a sl christ that does not affect their belief it only affects their acta acts it affects their conduct it strikes at tho the effect of their belief not the belief 3 mr I 1 r call now let us see pee if the se senator from illinois is right if he lie is right I 1 am wrong what is i that provision provi which was read today to day which bays says that a roan man shall not exercise the right of suffrage rage if ho lie ia is guilty of what of polygamy or thata woman shall be bg deprived of it a whole people because supposed F polygamous 0 tl T 9 n 1 n 0 us opinions Is that legislation legis 1 1 fur f r the punishment of a crime without trial without hearing without conviction without evidence upon the opinion of the senator from illinois stated here as a member of congress mr logan has the senator heard any statute read that went as far as he says mr it call yea yes the statute of last year and this bill of today to day mr logan I 1 think the senator is is very much mistaken ani let him read it mr call there is no use for me to read it if the bill docs does not deprive the mn m n and anti women of the territory of utah of the right to vote because of their polygamous opinions what is it mr lo 10 logan an that is ii a very different th thin ing mr call without conviction buton but on the determination of certain commissioners commissi onera without any judicial power then I 1 am wrong if the former act and tin thil bill do not declare with the force of law tho the rightful power of congress t to deprive a majority of three fourths or four fifths of a great number of people numerous enough to be a territory or S state t t of f political rights because of opinions anions and practices disapproved by congress and place the entire government of that people in a small majority of other opinions and practices then I 1 am mistaken mr logan that is a very dif different fler proposition the senator said the statute read ai at the desk deprived them of the right to vote tate on account belief I 1 say there is no such law it deprives them of the right to vote because they practice polygamy and big bigamy gamy and they are deprived of it on that account co aut but not on account of their belief mr fr call it deprives them of that without any kind of evidence that they b have ave done it without any trial without any hearing without any conviction and leaves the constitutional processes process es which guard and protect them from arbi arary deprival of political or other rights to the opinions of the senator from illinois and the commissioners to have or not to have political rights as they may choose that is thereas the reason son wh why 1 it does it for the mere matter orbi of belief e lief because it is without evidence and conviction and in some provisions provisions I 1 ni makes akes opil opinion liell or belief evidence of the illegal leg cr criminal practices practice because it makes L the political power of the state attack what ia is called chemor the ifor mon church and constructs a IL government ern ment a political power an oil the the basis affine religious belief and in opposition to another because the other is is injurious jurious and vio lalive of our social and religious ideas mr logan 0 I 1 byll say to tale senator so as t to settle the question between him and me that if a senator live in the tile city of washington with five openly and notoriously I 1 would tote vote to expel him from the senate without at any ay iy trial or conviction on tile ground that he was immoral and criminal before the civilized world I 1 would not want any judgment of a ciu rt mr call I 1 do not propose to join issue with my friend from illinois in regard to his mo morality rali or his sanc city or his better morals than othera others I 1 am free to say too that without undertaking to bum burn every one who who docs does not agree with me in my opinions ions slam I 1 am opposed to im immorality mOrRi ty everywhere but I 1 love the tile patient the genuine bisci disciple le of christ who with the law of FO love ve with intelligence i with calm gentleness attacks and extirpator extirpates error every everywhere where I 1 venerate and respect rl hect the priesthood and ministry of the christian church rab and slid good men everywhere but I 1 do not need to vaunt my morality I 1 can see the sinner or the Sl mormon ormon live in thi this s world inthe if the almighty permits him nit without holit war wanting it in g to puth put him i m to death and I 1 should never vote to put him out of the senate of the united states because he was guilty of either a fault or A crime without a cam calm 1 J J judicial uricial investigation in in this tribunal by a judgment made with all the forms and processes of the law and in tl ti a ordinary manner judicial of decision ion annat and that ia b the difference diffie rence between those v ft ho lie oppose this bill and those who favor it mr logan loan the difference is is just this if the senator will allow roc me I 1 nouh vote to put him nu nut t of the senate because of the tile fact that he lie committed ed a crime aud itwara it was a known fact and had been proven roven glenade gl before a committee of the senate enate without any judgment of a it court without vit hout any conviction that would imprison i ap r ison him without any conviction ion that would fine him but on 0 the fact act f being 0 made evident to the senate seaf of t the lie united states I 1 would vote to ex expel p e I 1 him th that a t is the difference between the senator and MY myself the senator would w want ni him t te go before a court to be con riched tried by a jury anil anti sentenced to tho |