Show SPALDING SP AGREES I mi WITH SOCIALISTS Differences of Opinion Largely S in fl Misconception of Terms BISHOP TALKS TO WORKERS l System S Indefensible He lie IS Hut But Essential E ull 1 to An audience mot more appreciative than large who gathered at the Federation of Labor hall hail to hear heur tho the differences of nr opinion between a n. Bishop iop of If the Episcopal copal church and ami a a. representative tive live Socialist Socialist on the philosophy called Socialism m last night were werE were-in In ono one sense sense disappointed e for Cor those differences after the ground round had been cleared were vere found round to be the phantoms phantoms phan yuan toms tommi of a a. few fow misconceptions of or terms and anti to have no existence except when the time definitions of at socialistic philosophy were wel taken takemi literally literally and and the Socialists Socialists Social Social- l tN did not riot take lake them literally While Bishop Spalding was ing InS at the cathe cathedral ral th the object objects and anti alms of r Socialism were outlined h by W v. S Gilbert who wito contrasted th j class conscious movement mo of or that philosophy pull phil n with the attitude t. t L. L of or the tho III 11 l nc mC s saiu a iC had to LU support support sup sup- port tile existing order of ot things thinKS ju Just justat t ta I af at a time the newspapers had hotl Musical lu numbers num h here bers rol were tIO given I en h by l Miss 4 Rose nose lIo Hogan n. n S Mrs Mii MI J. J C. C Gilbert and find Miss Js Cecil Cow- Cow den dpn Been Heen a n Socialist Ht Bishop Franklins J I S. S the PI speaker lenkeI of time the e evening said ald that once he had 1151 1 h een en a. a 1 Socialist himself and had hod bern been proud of or the appellation Ills lIlt undoing a at-a f a a Socialist ht had hail be he n th the re result of or criticising Carl Marx He lie had hud n rio defense e to lo make m ke of or the tha competitive system tem and amul he did not se e f where any nn all sensible en person perRon could defend rond It Mallock had bath tried to In his book Aristocracy anti and an I Et In which 11 lie argued d that the solo criterion enter criter ion of ot manhood was tho the ability to tomake make money mone and that the demonstration tion timi of that ability t van the time solo sole requirement re no- 10 of nf If the lie to administer adminis ter lEr money lIe He had hud been east a t endeavoring tc tt collect money to life lIfo the th debt tI t from StMark's StMark's St St. Marks Mark's hospital after a rather attempt to raise lalle Jt it locally tin the bishop saIl said and amI the tho result of or hi his WilLie while successful rul had hail ta l h him that hal nIC n majority of tho the 7 the great Leut no no sense souse o ot socIal l' l fly Aj Ai A thi th I philosophy p h ot of o socialism m ho ho hoa a agree t. t th n l t p y r ji 16 tutu the taw public should he be divided and that that- the hour hoot of ot labor Jabor could and should bo ho much shortened While lh the Argument wa va mado hint public servants MCI could no flu nul do tin the worK vor of administration whIch would be Ime necessary If It the these e principles were put Jut in practice pi ho thought th lie y would learn the necessary nece UY lessons ef ons when given th the lie work The saving savins ln a of and anti effort under social production production pro pro- would be Immense Advertising Adver Athel obvious exam tiRing was ns the mos pl Pie of or what shat that lint saving M would be Whelm a man moan offered him a it panacea nt cents a for COI every tiery III and asked lifty bottle for tor It Bishop Spalding said sni he ime SOl saved II fl fifty c cents nt Panacea n 1 Tor lor 01 UK Ill-i. his advanced Socialist When hen tho tue rim ont little lIt hit of philosophy fl a as a cure CUtO for all the time Ills HIs the th suffering world ivas enduring he hl stopped and thought Ho Lit It could not 1101 be he lie said bo be a ma ma- Prof Oliver Lodge ono one of or orthE scientists hud had he thE worlds world foremost of lit raid mid In Jim his capacity as ns president Psychical Research that hut he the Society for Cor the he lie spirit world was 1155 as real a thing tiling the thC material world lit lie quoted ns is whole En els to the lie effect that the time conscious life BCe of man manaM was aM tho the result of if f the th material conditions of or the epoch In n Il which man lived or as expressed the materialistic tlc con- con that b Simons 3 contained the eption of history ke to the Uil social and religious t phelomena phenomena phe- phe tey lomena of that hat history From that conception the speaker vigorously dis- dis dissented eim ted He asked his hits hearers if Ie the legislation legisla- legisla lon ion In favor OI of or res rest t for Cor workers made muio madey teachings of or Jesus J UM the b y Moses lid antI time the work for or country of George Georgo were to be explained by the he shortage of food supply and amid the of or land ownership as aK the tho thi IU tion conception would In huh indi- icat i- i cat ate The Time conception was one sided of or evolution rec- rec he le IC slid hl The rime theory theor two factors environment environment and Darwin ln hall had also pointed out ut another phenomenon variation phenomenon variation er E very Svery animal and plant grew after Its ts S kind but constantly varied a n little littie i ml nil all those U variations variation that hint tended atlon of or the to o 0 the time better pJ preservation u IV des cles were wele Incorporated Into lULU the Lilt per per- life of ot the animal or nl plant The materialistic conception did not allow for Cor variation A variation from flom he time species of or his time which no materialistic ma ma- tlc conception could account for moved Martin Luther to his great work vork of ot 1 reform Co Im I'm and all nil tho time demons demon of or hell iteli could not have ha turned him from his work Material conditions night might account for the reformation by pointing out that the people had hail hadt t reached cached u It stage singe where th they y would 0 u 1 listen Isten to Luther but that lint explanation was only part of It the time phenomenon S Appeals to o Selfishness Socialism as ai preached appealed to to the time 8 selfish Instincts of oC the most unselfish un ill- selfish class of It people the thc the poor ht he argued The cry to them item to be he ci class chiS s. s co conscious OWl was u tt cr cry to arouse their self el Interests The fhe speaker had a n fairly good job job job enough enough h to put 1101 him himIn In iii n a u position where he lie could say suy Well eH what's there thele in It for me They The would sa say to him Love uLo of ot your fellow follow men should bring you OU In But why h should he ht love lo his fellow nan man Tile Thc They had hall given n him no imo reason renson rca rea son to do tb so o All 11 they hal wild said to his self inter him ilm was t addressed to pst est As AM a matter of ot fact tact though self solf- Interest was vas not the lie only motive e that could be appealed to lo In lii the poorer tho the most niost un cluS classes s They were o of C the thie c classes I abS TIll The speaker soul said he lie was religious not not superstitious not hide bound In lii dogmas logman hut but moved by hy spiritual force which kept kell him hini In theline th time the line limit of ot goodness s anti and self lie Hu must be the time power Cd that there thero Continued on Oil Page e Three S SPALDING AGREES J WITH SOCIALISTS Continued from rom Pa Page e One of or an aim enthusiasm spiritually Inspired behind the efforts to help hell evolution which they should lc ho all au al make mak and Socialists were making mimi in their phil phil- Where here the Socialist failed ime he 16 contended was In hot met recognizInG lug InG ng that thal power of the spirit Helg- Helg iOs ous enthusiasm was an nn essential constituent con con- of or any effort to better con coti- To UI upset time the pr present nt econ econ- tUnic conditions s was an au 0 ideal purpose purpose pur pur- pose but It I must be he gone gomme about with witha wih a spiritually quickened ened mot motive and anI the he grace grce of or God Cod mu must t lea leaven lean n the thee e Th Time The speakers speaker's words were greeted wih general applause which was not to his a agreements with S So Sd- 1 but hut was extended In large neasure to 0 his expression lon im of or points or of f difference Gilbert G file Gh His HI Version Y v YSo So S. S Gilbert Gibert n assured assumed Bishop Spalding ing InS ng and the meeting that the time material material- i tc conception of history was as only materialistic In Iii the main anti and thai thal ill all al that It I meant was WAR that a n man must have lave material food to nourish his body lody r nd mind before he could turn his hi mind to spiritual thin things Socialists al- al lowed owed for fol variations he lie said and It Was a as precisely the spiritually Inspired variation that lint made man runny many Socialists ts sacrifice their helm lives hives for the time Idea Ilea The Time mi Ich ii plutocratic cl class was materialistic ti he le said and amid the time poor pool POO exploited class wits U as materialistic and auml al 1 so the tic le c was tas content to U use l materialistic argUment ar- ar because e the they recognize that tile tte ie Spiritual uplift 1 could coull only come after fter a ii n man lan was assured that his hits next me meat meal 1 mn was a n certainty and amid not a remote pO possibility fH First l ln the fro gross material soil soi then thenie the Hie ie growth th ro front from ron it I of or the lie spiritual up- up Un lift ft w the order set Et b by tho socialist for or hl hi campaign and Its Is ion on tSo So far ai from lom Ignoring variations as IA s the hue bl bishop had hac thought th they looked to o variations to td te supply them with iii ith the time ery men who would die for socIal socIal- Ism sm V. W. S. S S Dalton Dilton Dalon risked ed Dh Bishop l it if f he lie did dil not riot Include man in iii time the range of f th the forces of or evolution The hl bishop I that hint he hp 1 did il but hUl his idea leea of time the plo lay of ff f evolution e differed from the Idea Idear Ill IllI I oV of r I Mr Dalton In Iii that time the latter latel WitS was lore strictly Marxian A As tending tendIng to did not noL clash with show how low that hunt evolution wih of life which hn had baud the he ethical features o 11 mother love lo lovend time the tw Intense c and nd all al that it Implied In lii the lie promo promo- t lion Ion on of the higher Isher h qualities He lie I. I re me re erred hl his fU questioner to lo the current numb umber of time the thE Atlantic Monthly for fol a n uller fuler answer I an to 0 his clue question ton to Bishop Another question ton put hut l h by one lime of th the audience was wl hether he h. a as a bishop in Iii the time Episco- Episco lal Ilal al church was not bound JO to help imell II n upholding the lit tl plutocracy JH Doesn't nt Plutocracy to II il Bi Bishop hop r replied that he lie was vas not that nil all al he had to do tit was wa waso to o preach Christianity help to build hurches c and ami thai timal J he lie wa was not nOl be beef be- be le- le ef I of or h his is right t to tn any opinion or 01 1 Its Is that when the 1 lie said all social revolution came the lie rich men mel melIn church would tr try to swing the time In the l hurch aga against thin the a and 11 night might come within measurable doree do- do ree of succeeding but hut that time the working work work- Ie to tn Join Ing ng ni men n had imad the time opportunity the lie church chUch and swing it i the tile other wn way vay 1 lie saw Fa Pierpont Morgan lor an at nt every very Fe session slon of the tue Protestant EpIscopal Episcopal EpIs- EpIs copal opal conf and he thought though hough he lw would not say ay so as nN a CI- CI cem that that time thc magnate was ivan thou there thle kii selfish and earthly purpose e. e He lie Jl thou bought ht himself that Morgan was UN for foi the ulie a burden COI tw church hurch to have e to bear blar |