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Show . A cbQtt wtth (From page 1) Q. What are tome er of DARCOM. of thm uMirl Utah becoming a dumping ground with MX and WETEYE. Inevitably theyll bring the Air Force into it as one thing. major challenge of being the command- When I first took over about 4 yean ago. General Rogers who was then Chief of Staff said that he felt that DARCOM was one of the most complex and misunderstood commands in the Army, and 1 think that despite 4 yean of efforts trying to get a reasonable understanding on the part of all memben of the Army we still tend to be the least understood of the major commands and there isnt anything you can do to make it less complex. Its going to be the most complex command in the Army. One of the primary challenges I think has been the efforts weve made to tty to stabilize the civilian workforce. 90 percent of our workforce is civilians, about 10 civilians for each military. And over a period of 12 years from 1968 to 80 our civilian workforce was reduced to about 500 people per month for 12 years on the average. So that one of the primary objectives is to try and arrest the declining workforce and actually in this ad- ministration we have just within the last month got an increase of some 2900 spaces so that hopefully we can' get the additional civilian authorizations which we need to enable us to accommodate the increasing workload which were going to see over the next ten years. Q. What i your opinion of the proposed WETEYE move and hou do you feel about Tooele being the new home of the bomb? A. 1 think that the move is long overdue and that Tooele is the logical place at which the WETEYEj should be stored. It has the skills and technical capabilities and it has the secure facility which together comprise the type of environment where we want to store those necessary weapons. Q. Regarding the WETEYE move , what happened in the begin-ninthat got the people in Utah and theae area all in an uproar? What i wrong with the WETEYE that people are upaet about? A. Theres a very strong concern in the public at large with respect to the toxicity of chemicals. I think that from the very first rise of chemicals back in World War I they have a potential for inflicting casualties that are not normally exposed to and as a result there is a physchological problem associated with the use of chemicals which for some reason or another we dont attribute to wild howitzer rounds going off in your back yard. Dont ask me why, thats a fact. There have been efforts to ban totally the use of chemicals. The Geneva Convention of course the United States did not subscribe. The concern that people have is that as they are being transported, if there were to be an accident, something with a high toxicity of nerve agents and so on, could have a very serious effect on the populus and vicinity and understandably so. We had the incident here in 69 with the sheep which has caused the people, in this particular area to Ire particularly sensitive to it. But I dont know of anything that was more sensitive than the REDHAT movement when Okinawa was reverted to Japanese sovemity when we were required to remove the chemicals which were then stored in Okinawa. That was a very sensitive move and the impact was such that the Congress by law legislated that those chemicals could not be brought into the Continental United States. As a result they are currently stored on Johnson Island in the Pacific. If you were to look for a place not to store chemicals you probably would select Johnson Island. The fact is thats where they are. Thats one of our primary concerns now is being sure they are being maintained in a safe environment. But thats really the basis for it. Its a combination of the unknown, the highly toxic nature of the chemicals and the fact that its an invisible tasteless substance that can inflect a mortal wound or. . .that in most cases in a manner m winch in a civilian community would be impossible to recover. One of the main things weve done with respect to any move of chemicals, particularly with respect to the present one is weve run everything I can think of out with respect to insuring the safety of the move that is I believe the safest form of transportation over a route that is basically and largely inhabitated with the lowest density in this country and of cours they will land here at Michael Air Force on the airfield and be trucked from here to Tooele where there is a secure storage environment. A. de-tere-nt g feeling about chemical.. I the Army in general and mod of the feeling again activities it undertake and Im wondering what can be done about that? A. I dont feel that. For example, a couple of years ago when dent Carter went up the mountain, he came back and said there was apathy in the American public. That wasnt my sensing at that time and of course my sensing now is even more strongly contrary to that. I perceive that there is a strong feeling among the American people in support of defense and it supports the current administrations efforts to strengthen the Armed Forces. There are some minority groups, minority not in the sense of race, very vocal, who have taken opposite positions but I dont believe that reflects the general feeling. Q. You talked about the feel an Q. anti-publ- ic anti-publ- ic I get the feeling that they maybe don't feel badly again at the Army but they are sensitive to what the Army is doing more so than they have been in previous year. The cruise missile flying over here that concerned a lot of landing off the range and maybe its Just a greater general public knowledge of what the Army is doing that has led them to be a little bit apprehensive about the dangers and so on. A. Its not only that, but youve got the MX in Utah and youve got the Pershing flying over and youve got the nuclear testing. (Pershings were flying over in Utah in 1950). But it hits the paper again and with the WETEYE and all that. Inevitably when we get queried they11 say isnt Nows Your Best Chance to Save on Our Best Work. Q. Where is the emphasis do you see in the future for the Army's testing and development research programs? A. I think we will continue to see increased emphasis on our efforts to try and compress and shorten the cycle. This means were going to have to improve our productivity either thru contracting out or thru increased instrumentation upgrading the state of art of our instrumentation and so on which has been allowed to degrade to some extent over the past 5 years. I think probably one of the things youll see with respect to research and development. Secondly, I believe youll see continued and increasing emphasis on the integrated battlefield aspects the fact that our equipment must be prepared to operate on a conventional or chemical battlefield and as a result I would expect youll see increased testing here at Dugway for those aspects that involve chemical warfare aspects of this. Q. Since many of the facilities of DARCOM installations are old. do you expect funding to be allocated to decrease BMAR? A. 1 think the answer is probably yes. We have to recognize that we are also competing for a limited amount of backlog of maintenance onr repair funds with other claimants throughout the Army and particularly with those severely degraded facilities which our troops are occupying in Europe at the present time. I think, that its readily apparent that those facilities will get the higher priority probably than the facilities in the United States will. DARCOM is one of the major commands here in .the US, we are going to continue to endeavor to gain increased maintenance and. repair funds and hopefully we will see some benefits from that on this 10-1- . new administration. Q. There is a great deal of effort going on to increase the overall readiness of the Army and the other services. How is DARCOM responding to that challenge? A. I think very well. Of course we exist solely and simply for the purpose of supporting the rest of Army both active, reserves. National Guards our sister services and those allies who we support through either foreign military sales or foreign aid. A great deal of our effort goes in insuring that they not only receive quality equipment but that equipment is supportable from a supply standpoint and maintainable from a maintainability standpoint, both in the units and depot and pretty much generally across the board our trim lines and performances are up. The operational readiness of Army equipment worldwide is generally good and our contributions to readiness from that standpoint in peacetime seems to go pretty well. When I first took over about four years ago. General Rogers who was then Chief of Staff said that he felt that DARCOM was one of the most complex and misunderstood commands in the Army, General Guthrie said during his visit to Dugway. . GytDurie (From page 1) yfilioes OPGs deffeimse role testing should be justified are in: - Performance of detection systems under realistic battlefield conditions. - Performance of large scale decontaminatio equipment. - Persistence and dispersal of thickened agents. - Performance of specific munitions such as the 155mm binary round. DUGWAY IS the only place where we could do such testing, if it were approved. Although no such testing has been conducted since 1969, and facilities to Dugway still retains the necessary expertise, know-hoconduct this type of testing. Live agent testing is the only sure way to know whether our equipment and procedures work and whether new munitions such as the 155 binary round effectively disperse chemicals of the proper consistency. Formal bilateral negotiations between the US and the Soviet Union began in July 1977 to prohibit stockpiling, production, transfer or use of such weapons, however, verification requirements, procedures for declaration and destruction of stocks and the question of whether entry, into force of the treaty will be conditional upon adherence by other specified countries were critical issues. Now the most critical issue is the flagrant invasion, of Afghanistan and the reported use of CW by the Soviet troops there. Secretary of Defense Weinburger has stated that We are not abandoning hope for arms control, but we are abandoning unwarranted illusions. . . It would be dangerously naive to expect the Soviet Union, if it once achieves clear military superiority, not to try and exploit their military capability even more fully than they are now doing. President Reagan has said: As we negotiate, our security must be folly protected by a balanced and realistic defense program. General Meyer, the Chief of Staff in his Army White Paper for the 1980s stated that We must aggressively define our nuclear and chemical doctrine, articulate it cleairly, and gain its acceptance by the national leadership and our allies. This doctrine must be accompanied by. the necessary force structure, equipment, supplies and training to provide, credible deterrence. We must continually train to operate in chemical, nuclear and conventional environments. Lenin summed up the communist view of morality when he said that Everything is moral that is necessary for the annihilation of the old exploiting social order and for uniting the proletariat. JOHN M. COLLINS, in his authoritative and widely acclaimed study on US Soviet Military Balance, wrote that It is likely that the Soviets would consider using a combination of. . . chemical, nuclear (andor) conventional weapons and they have the capability to do (so) if they believed a significant tactical advantage could be gained. . .Moscow would find no strong incentive to employ chemical weapons if US forces possessed comparable offensive and defensive capabilities, because it likely would be encumbered by decreased mobility and increased logistical burdens without much prospect of compensatory benefits. The estimated more than 30 tons of defensive supplies and equipment needed daily to support each division in' chemical combat would be a steep price for the Soviets to pay. We must maintain, therefore, chemical stocks, improve our capabilities and be ready to respond, to defend and deter the chemical threat. cialism. w 'Without properly tested chemical defensive clothing and equipment, our soldiers could suffer casualties approaching 100 percent under chemical attack. The recently published final report of the 1980 Defense Science Board Study on Chemical Warfare highlights some of the actions we must tackle in the CW arena. These include: - Continued improvement of our defense posture with emphasis on training and collective protection. - An adequate US chemical delivery capability to deter Soviet offensive use of CW. (Of course your work on the 155mm binary round is a key element in this effort.) - Demilitarization of obsolete chemical stocks. 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WITHOUT PROPERLY tested chemical defensive clothing and equipment, our soldiers could suffer casualties approaching 100 percent under chemical attack. With the proper defensive materials our soldiers will be able to continue operations, although limited, in the event of chemical attack. With an adequate delivery capability, CW will hopefully be averted.' Limited open air testing is needed withstrict controls. Strict protocols must of course be followed, and tests should be designed to answer specific hypotheses. It should be possible to carry out such testing safely and to gain valuable information. Examples of cases where such open air |