Show SERMON seemon by president J M r grant tabernacle march 11 1855 1853 t f REPORTED BY G D WATT warr I 1 I 1 am ant thankful if ifor or ibe the blessi blessings nj s that the tho lord bw hay vouchsafed to bestow upon his keople people if 1 do not at ali ail times limes in public express my gratitude to our father yet 1 I feel grateful and all his favors whether I 1 utter it or 01 not I 1 have reason to belitza that nil all tho tile people feel the rallie same game that is all who feel right all the saints bil all who live up to t the h e r ea ig i e P pro ro f fiss piss 33 r i 1 we haves hal received manx many testimonies mon men j of t he e goo goodness ney neg 0 god our heavenly catl father r I 1 in si sick nes fessand bess ness sand aed aad in health iio lie h sIard haskard ha has va our 0 prayer prayers pra er 3 and supplied our wants in distress d is tres s he has as administered cand nand and when the light of his spirit is upon us we comprehend clearly the dealings of t the he lord but when spirit is ii absent from us we do not so clearly comprehend ill lii his mercie mercies sand and bless biess sings bestowed upon us in bisida airy alry in aock d as i a people tople till prea presume time lime thain taju the order of the provi dences of god he has gon zon considered it necessary at times tunes to leave his child rento rele relf to themselves without the aid of any special influence of tiie the tile holy spirit mit that they may learn to comprehend and appreciate it when bestowed upon them there 1 I 1 fo for fon instance the les blessings Ies sings you enjoy every day for foi i a aweeka month ar or a year you so highly as vou von ou do the blessi rigs you yon receive more seldom deprive a it man mah orally of any common article offord of food even the bread breid you now enjoy keep it from him bim for a week for a rilo trio nth or for albear al year and when whenn he again obtains it he be will appreciate it very much 1 it is measurably BO so with wath he the spirit of the e lord we do not enjoy it atall time ilme times we do 10 lo not itce receive sive live it under all the circumstances of life tb thea IR me meas ras we do under som bom especial condition thi thavee we may be placed in here where we par the spirit ot of the lord to us we pray for many things andi have hate heard beard some people pray in a manner that they would be very sorry in their sober moments if the lord should actually answer their prayer prayers if it the prayers of the tile people were written down so thai that they could read avd aud reflect upon them I 1 bave have no doubt but what the they would wish to have a new naw eai edi edition tion I 1 have hearl heard people pray fyr the lord to do this and that indeed 1 I have bave head beard then pray for him tb to do a thousand things that they themselves would not attempt to do they would consider consi derit lit degrading to do them they would actually consider it sinful to endeavor to accomplish what illey they will petition the almighty mip mig aty to perform for them i A mans works should agree with his faith if ige lie h e has faith to sustain ial JAA words if he lie has hast falth faith to sustain his deeds his works should coi cof correspond respond with hi his s faith I 1 must be righton right in my faith to be right in moy toy works if f the tree is biter bitter tile the fruit will also be bitter or in other words voids the tree Is known kno wn by its by its works if a mans works are good his faith is also good if his works are bad we infer that his hn faith is bad also and verv very very just inferences too 60 all men should be j judged by their works tah thesis is a correct criterion to jadle every person by many of the latter day day dav saints faints have anal anai correct works while some profess to have bave correct faith but exhibit by bv that their faith is ac not good god how can call I 1 tell fell whether your faith is good or not I 1 can call only judge of f it by your works if your works are good and in accordance with the tiie law of ged with the book of mormon with the book of trino trine add and covenants and ath mth the rules of righta hat hak havea hakea ea right to inter infer that your faith has produced the works I 1 behold that the tree or stem it t you will allow me the expression Qu from which they grew is a good one butchen we see sei a mans mails works vary cimesa little good today to day and tomorrow to morrow and perhaps the third day he performs evil to tabe tale believe belleve lieve that irlan irian nan is correct in his faith falth caithin fai fal thin in every anse s onse ense of the word ord I 1 cannot canna we speak of faith falth as the first our religion if it is tile the first principle other principles cinci grow out of it we cannot create principle we ban only discover it if you were to discover a new principle you would err in sayin fi that tat you had created a princile princ prine Dle die that you hd brought one into existence principle eternally eger eler nally exists and mail cannot create it t if you discover any lav aw a w ill lii m mathematics in ashl ashi astronomy onomy or any principle or lav law connected with the she sciences this is no that you have brought into existence existence a new liw law ot bt process of law for principle you made the discovery we have the e faculty to naho nako discoveries we have hake the faculty to discover disco vei we have tile the faculty ri alty 10 lo 10 learn and understand tiie ilia first principled of the doctrines of christ feitli bearg the he first fitin aprin inel ciple pie ale of our religion beligio n is eth established Is b elisif ed A in n tl the tha rd by hearing it is established in the mind by evidence arld ana by testimony I 1 carina carlna cannot believe evereth ever ish isk that abut my ry bo borhi ejr eil lay ay w wish ish jefto believe be lievi I 1 cannot always li elieTe to please mv my neighbor while I 1 have no evidence perhaps td tot believes beli belie evas veils volis lie he does I 1 hive likye no testimony to receive what ne has received 11 reject it my neighbor ia is offended ad calls calis calls calis me to have faith tollie lieve as lle lie dedoes if he ie woud would only produce evidence a and ll 11 tes or me toh toC predicate my faith falth upon ta pro dicel dacol taine faine b constence conn don tence Wence or establish in my mind mira faith lien ihen I 1 cal cound could uld believe belleve ashe as he does dods faith ihen aben then com come I 1 aby by behrsing testimony lor for or by testimony mony being produced or brought before the mind ti I 1 the testimony moby you von haie have received recel ved vea 0 ot the religion just as different differ entas as the religion you profess is different franl any other religion the methodist ier ter lor tor example fo founds ands his upon the kind ot ol testimony lie receives neis heis taught aught by the pre presiding sVing eider elder the circhie rid erthe local preacher the class leader the eili exhorter orter br 01 some of the tile lay mein members bers certain principles etli otier er words testimony is produced ced to 0 convince him that such and such principles are right and his bia belief is based upon the testimony that tilt ha is capable of receiving ing tand appreciating faith corresponds more or less with their discipline or articles artitles of faith they believer there i is s i but one ow god infinite eternal from frim everlasting to everlasting without body parts or passions tA testimony for that tint belief is only to be found in their discipline and traditions and has been handed down from father to son from their grandmother the church of rome to their mother the church of england E ug lanil they actually believe it writ it and publish it abroad A th s of p rin I 1 kl in pouring and other york pork Tork ae 1 mir mik I 1 ta As ejiu vilh wih their belief inthey ilg ils rot roi it r MN 01 f I 1 a be im immersed pd i they I 1 je w on I 1 etc 4 him S sp if j they ived t for a dinall 6 baptized ohly only acy would Teach ahira him hid aei afi they believed it right for a man to be sprinkled to an ans awer the requirements requirement of heaven they would teach him so hence you yon d discover iacov er that their works would cor correspond agoti wi with th their faith if they had no faith they could not believe either iu in im i in doil JC a believer id fit immersion li he wil wll will practice eit elt it his bis lis ils works will correspond with his faith and lie he will go forth and be immersed how do adu kno kuo know he he believes in baptism m hy by immersion bv ily ha hi w works ahat nihat evidence have hire you that t that bat pe person 1 arsa t behaves ieves leves ih ill immersion mer sion why nays says my brother 61 1 I was wag present when he was immersed I 1 heard him tell the tile elder or the priest that he lie required immersion merrion im at ilna lifa handstand hailds hand sand and be he went forth and backed up his faith falth caithin fai thin in it iti by his works this would be correct reasoning but says one 11 1 I believe ia ill having waler baler retired poured rny rily head hod how d dodou 0 know he believes 1 I was present and arid hard NAM him require the priest OE or elder upon him bim and lahd the priest complied mitheis with mith bis his bis wishes and his works proved to me we bhat lib lie believed in p pouring 0 aring i 1 ir 5 another one says to the priest 11 1 I wish you to sprinkle me I 1 require this because I 1 believe that sprinkling is the best mode what evidence have you that this moan man roan believes ju sprinkling his works prove it i tiie the simple fact that you on was ivas present and saw him sprinkled or heard hoard TM him bim request the tho administration of ozithe the rite convince you had a certain kind or species of faith do a all ail I 1 people have one faith no and their works are ardas areas as varied as their faith if there are d diverse iverso kinds of falth faith there must be diverse kinds of works ii i 1 i if thereas but one faith there can be but one mode U clark dark jas assents asserts positively that the Colos siana vele weme were buried with christ in baptism that is they were actually immersed he ilg says the tha greek testament reads that dat they were Immersed plunged buried that they were cover covier led up how do you know anything about the colds lans lars what process of reasoning would you pursue to lead you to the conclusion that the believed in immersion as the only mode that they tiley were actually buried in water again if afi yon inquire whether the tile were sprinkled how bow would you yon know tjien faith says olie 1 I would know it by their works for I 1 know that their works would correspond with their faith and if thee ther ephesians bad the ardi hy by pouring I 1 should know it by their works what does the bible tell you that there is ona one falth falih faith one lord and cne cue baptism i fi i r if ae catholics had the tha same faith that the had could conid they pour or sprinkle certa ceita certainly tally liy lly not jf you say cay that one portion of the people of god are poured another portion sprinkled and arid another immersed yeu yen you introduce schism alund and false doctrine and then different work s follow youlia you have the colos coles immersed the tho corinthians poured and the Ephe ephesians sprinkled you introduce the doing of three kinds of labor but if there is one faith falth and they all had the right kind of faith falth orthey if they had all attained to tile tho likic precious faith de delivered livoi to the saints and one portion was immer immersed ped Fed ghenther then ther balanca balance were immersed also if ilithe ahe fact can ba be established that one ona portion of tile llie christian church was immersed it will establish the fact beyond the shadow of a doubt that all thie tha rest mere were vi ere administered to in the same way the people of god are under the ne necessity essit of having like precious faith and their wort works therefore would also have to a arree agree br ee if dr clark dark jascor and I 1 have no reason to dispute the llie learned doctor that tile tho were immersed the tiie of the tile god in all the tile ancient ancilia anci ancl tit lit also immersed jf if they had bat but tile ibe one faith falth itis impossible to introduce po pouring gring and sprinkling if you introduce pouring tbell then they hid the pouring faith fuith if sprinkling the i I 1 sprinkling sprinkle lg faith but if you prove that tion tiou maas mans immersed you prove prova that they had bad ahe like pip alous faith aud and the rest must of 0 feces sit sity this is the way I 1 reason upon th a i aann acif nl it ti they Y wera er I 1 immersed mersed iti they vero vere con cou finned finnel bythe tytha hiyah aa us you learn bytho by tho edme scripture if the lie lle llev liev edit edil to lapon lawon hands aud tiia tila latter day saints should believe it to ha hat fusary 1 to lin hin liandi j how could coula von yon faietti agree with avith theirs duca iuca new argument and ud Te caucia concia yolar phiys in the tile lay isy lavingon ingon of band hand ia in for fr tile reception of the acly ghost the methodists lof england all ali believe was iilo tile ilio e of ahe he ancient agals all in im the be rive twill will agree agre 9 that thatchat that thal w was a s tha the ancis ancients ids tas res exhibited fit the therefore tha if any pt fir the modern reject it twe hava ari arl a ri glit gilt tbt beert that their faith is known by their works we haves right to say that their faith partes not with that bf the anc eints but my faith agrees with wilh that of the ancients I 1 belleve believe and pati f ce th avery works which they practiced 4 I 1 believe in baptism for ibe the remission of sins and tha tl laying ou on of hands for the reception of tho the holy sending ghost and arid if any are sick among sanding i n f for or the elders eiders of the church in au tile the si side g c with oil ani aai in praying for them that they mav bd healed I 1 novo now I 1 iwanylo maritto dwell a little upon this point I 1 do not mot know but bul some use the ordinances of god too commonly and antoo slight occasions some if they get a sliver in their fi finger tiger will call for tile the laying on of hands and for prayer to cure the wound or if they get a little gravel or dust in their eye ese they will want you la ta lay hands on them to eradicate it huli and so of other little complaints plaines plaints for which we already have bave simple and known remedies I 1 do not wish to teach this but I 1 wish to teach the doctrine of t tee e bible I 1 Is any sick am ong yon 7 let him cai cat call I 1 nor for the tho elders of the eh church U h anuj inri let over ill til him anoint anointing in efin olt in the fia lia canue uthe of the arm id I d and tho the mayer rayer cayero of f faith falth fait falt lif shall savo save the sick and the lord lor shail shall raise him up iiii and it if he lie have committed wins eins they shail shall be forgiven doctrine of the bibie bible mark th tho words if any of or the apostles are sick let them send for iome come some of the rest of the apostles and let their brethren apostles administer to them and they shall bo be healed the bible does not read thus it does not read that only the renowned in llna the arch church shall reap the benefits of this it say gay says gays Js Is ahny yick leick a I 1 V e t hasp true ue chu ehu rc c n t onearth unearth 1 ta r t age what mola moda would that ao 13 any were sich dickt says soya otes off ibby ibay hid thel thet the I 1 mei me fajth faith as the tha they perfo perro he same works how rhall we in xao wao anther tha ator 0 dy aal vim ve e haft tame kams fait fail gilb b aj aint nt wd imo apostles q gaid said they lil III hat hai te the IU like faith i how are a re we to ascer aseer ascertain ir aln ala I 1 that fiat 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