Show TWO ELDERS iro yew new york herald reporter this morning wo we received by telegraph the summary of an interview view held in in new york between eldera elders james H hart from bear lake and A C from salt lake city on the on one iland enand and a reporter of the N Y herald erald 11 on the other NEW YORK juno june the firm attitude which w aich prest garfield has assumed regarding the suppression of polygamous practices in utah lias has created a widespread wile widespread spread interest as to the measures to be adopted to lilai hat end and how the mormon people will act if an aggressive policy is determined upon elnicw in view of this a herald reporter had a joint interview with bishop alexander P p er and elder james H hart of tle the mormon church in the grand central hotel last evening hart is a member of the territorial legislature batu of idaho both gentlemen were in in axce exceedingly ediel Y good spirits and talked about polygamy 01 y enthusiastically A copy of the revised edition of the new testament and aa an old bible were the only books of any kind visible in the room is police magistrate maT magistrate istrate in salt lake city in r n the course of the conversation mr hart spoke as follows pol polygamy agamy is not practiced to as great an extent as most people suppose I presume that not more than seven seve per cent of the mormon morma ma males have more than one wife each among nl n young dung C people the practice of poleg polygamy is not so popular as it once was the trouble is that a young man nowadays now a days hesitates some time before he assumes the responsibilities of marrying more than one wife it ia is an adventurous y V en undertaking to provide for several families and one which has discouraged our young men considerably sider aide ably v you would be surprised to know that in utah there are ten per percent cent less women than men yes interrupted bishop C before I came away from salt lake take city I advised all the young men there to marry up all the women and thus settle the polygamy question for there would not be anybody left for f or those already married the fact is that the women are so scarce that I often quiz the young you aig men in in my district by sa saying in that I must send them to new york von for wives vives elder hart continued gibing giving his view on political the side odthe of the utah question by saying it in utah uta we have a local governing power the legislature and governor the latter is not is appointed by the president he possesses the extraordinary power of a final veto upon any ay acts of the legislature there is is no appeal from his decision now the governor arnor r is generally selected from some one of tho the states and having no landed interest or permanent residence in the territory he lie has nothing in in common with the people who are compelled to submit to his absolute dictum the governor cannot judge impartially as a rule and as his mind is allied filled with principles contracted in a christian community he generally vetoes any measures pas ed in the interests of the of the tile people tho the result of the last election shows how unjust this is and how a mormon representative only can do justice to the large masses in the contest over the election of a territorial r delegate to congress in november 1880 the democrats dmock ats and republicans rc united against tile cormons mormons Mor mons as they always do our party is called the peoples party the opposition ioA polled 1300 votes for their candidate while our nominee was elected on votes this will serve to illustrate the preponderance of tho the I mormon interests and ia ig the strongest possible argument in favor of letting us havethe have ba the power of regulating our own local affairs utah will never give up the effort to enter the union the united states officials keep up a constant war upon us why wo we have stood ten times as much from these officers as any other community would woul d without striking back but there is one thing which the americans n need ced never fear wo we cannot be tempted to act as the southerners did at fort sumpter Bum pter although the republic treats us baal badly still we love its flag respect its two laws and will f fight gh for ita its principles the people in the country surrounding us seem to feel bitterly towards the cormons mormons Mor mons I dont know why our men arc are manly and our women are virtuous A mormon ormon married gentleman does not do as married men in in the refined east deceive a woman and then throw her and her child upon the world to starve or live a life of shame he has the courage and honor to give that woman his name to assume assil me the responsibility of providing f for or her and her children and lie gives her a happy harpy home mr air said the mormons cormons Mor mons were not enthusiastic about talmage na whose those style they regard aa as too jerky and harsh it is strange said he that with such liberal men I among imong them christians should be so intolerant ar and A bigoted I don dont t wonder that this age produces men like col ingersoll and thomas Payne for I think I would have been an infidel myself if I had bad not become a mormon ormon |